Hey FrGamble!

Quote: FrGamble

Oh by the way what would you say if I said, "if you were a true Christian you never would have thought any of the things you do."

I was never a true Xtion, I was a
pretending wannabe trying it
on for size. One thing I noticed
was how the kids in my group
were always amazed and awed
when they had a new convert.
Like here was some kind of
proof the religion was real
and not just a fantasy. When
the new convert eventually
backslid, they had 14 reasons
why it happened. Just like you
do when somebody like my
ex priest friend drops out. It's
the fault of everything but the
ridiculousness of the religion
itself. That would never even
occur to you as being a reason.

Quote: Evenbob

This statement alone shows you were
never an atheist. It's 100% wrong.
It's like saying unicorns don't exist
is a belief system. I was a Christian
in name only for awhile. I was
searching, I was pretending. Just
like you were pretending to be an
atheist. Once I saw the huge flaws
in the religion up close, I kicked
it to the curb without a second
thought and never had a regret.

Quote: FrGamble

This statement alone shows you were
never an Christian. It's 100% wrong.
It's like saying unicorns don't exist
is not a belief system. I was an atheist
in name only for awhile. I was
searching, I was pretending. Just
like you were pretending to be an
Christian. Once I saw the huge flaws
in atheism up close, I kicked
it to the curb without a second
thought and never had a regret.

Quote: FrGamble

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This statement alone shows you were
never an Christian.

I already said I was never a
real Xtian, I was pretending.
I had never drank the Kool Aid
like my friends in the group, I
just went along to get along
waiting for it to 'take'. But
I had too many doubts and
questions that were never
answered because there
were no answers. I realized
to be successful at being a
Xtian you had to turn off
the curious part of your brain
and just accept a whole bunch
of silliness without question.
No thanks.

Quote: Evenbob

No you were not. It's like the
girl in college who attends one
Communist rally and then tells
everyone she is now a Communist.
No, she's not. Just because you
decided to take a vacay from your
brainwashing doesn't mean you
were anything but a rebellious kid.



This statement alone shows you were
never an atheist. It's 100% wrong.
It's like saying unicorns don't exist
is a belief system. I was a Christian
in name only for awhile. I was
searching, I was pretending. Just
like you were pretending to be an
atheist. Once I saw the huge flaws
in the religion up close, I kicked
it to the curb without a second
thought and never had a regret.

I thought you were going to say it's like the girl in college who drunkenly kisses another girl and then claims, from that point forward, that she is "bi"

Quote: aceofspades

I thought you were going to say it's like the girl in college who drunkenly kisses another girl and then claims, from that point forward, that she is "bi"

That's a even better analogy. She
goes the rest of her life telling
people she was bi-sexual in
college because she thinks it
makes her 'cool'.

Atheism is never a decision.
You don't wake up one day
& say, I think I'll be an atheist.
It's a long slow process and
you eventually realize you
are one, you eliminated all
the other possibilities along
the way.

You mentioned my take on reincarnation
the other day. When I was a kid we saw
more of the handicapped than we do now.
There were no small blue buses yet and
a lot of them went to regular public school.

They were mocked relentlessly by normal
kids. I always felt it unfair that if we only
got one life, like everybody said, that you
could be born with a major handicap.
It sucked.

But it sucks a lot less if you realize it's
just a bump in the road in eternity.
Which the work being done on kids
who remember past lives seems to be
pointing to. When even the strongest
doubter see's the double and triple
and quadruple blind way the research
is conducted, they admit they don't
know what's going on but something
definitely is.

And the logic and reason to it is faultless.
I just read a survey that show's 51% of the
world believes in reincarnation already,
without even knowing about the science
studies. That's because it's totally logical.
We are surrounded by rebirth, up to
our necks in it. It's only logical to apply
it to ourselves and the science research
is showing we're right to believe it.

It's organized god religions that have
no logic and reason. That we get some
kind of reward when we die if we behave
ourselves. That's what you tell a child when
you want his cooperation, it's ridiculous
to an adult. Unless you were raised in the
religion, then you believe out of habit.

Reincarnation is very boring. So we die
and we come back here in another
birth cycle. Forever. It's much more
melodramatic and exciting to think
we're at the side of a mighty god
on in a horrible hell. Makes life
a soap opera with us as the star.

It's sobering to know life is what you
make of it for eternity. But it's fair, and
fairness is what you get with eternal
random chance.

There is so much I disagree with you about in this post but I will just say how happy I am that you believe in the supernatural.

Quote: FrGamble

There is so much I disagree with you about in this post but I will just say how happy I am that you believe in the supernatural.

What part of a kid remembering a past life is supernatural.
It's perfectly natural, there's nothing super about it. We
don't know how a lot of things work, does that make them
supernatural? Are black holes supernatural? We can make,
use, and measure electricity. But we really don't know what
electricity is Does that make it supernatural?

If you can do the research and make sure the kid is telling
the truth, there's nothing supernatural about it. It can be
measured and verified. You can't do any of that with religion.
If you could prove and verify God's existence it wouldn't be
supernatural anymore. But you cannot.

Padre - do you forgive them?

https://nypost.com/2020/05/30/st-patricks-cathedral-desecrated-with-protest-graffiti/

Quote: Evenbob

What part of a kid remembering a past life is supernatural.

Lets see, immortal souls dying going somewhere immaterial and then being reincarnated into other human beings or perhaps animals. Yeah, nothing supernatural here.

Quote:

If you could prove and verify God's existence it wouldn't be
supernatural anymore. But you cannot.

Why would confirming the supernatural make it not supernatural anymore? Do you think supernatural is synonymous with unknowable?