Reincarnation

FrG mentioned reincarnation the other day. I had no
idea there was actual scientific research in this area.
The University of Virginia has been looking at it since
1961 and even got a million dollar endowment from
a rich guy in 1967 to keep investigating it.

They don't use regression, they say that's worthless.
What they do is find 3-5 year old kids who claim to have
been somebody else before they were born. The results
are astounding. They have over 3000 cases that have been
analyzed and completely investigated, and are getting
more all the time.

These are dry, PhD scientists, not people with an agenda.
They don't even draw any conclusions from the research,
they just present the facts. They get info from these kids,
and track down the facts, and find out if the kids are remembering
actual people and events.

I won't go into details, read about it yourselves. One conclusion
is, the universe is all consciousness, and we're part of it. Some
people call it god, some call it the Great Spirit, it is everything
and in everything. When we die, our consciousness goes on
to inhabit another human body. 70% of the kids who have
memories of another life died suddenly or traumatically, they
weren't expecting it. So their memories are right there in the
front of the kids mind. After the age of 5, our brains change,
and we forget most of what it was like to be younger than that.

There is a certain unexciting mundane-ness to all of this. It
means if life is boring and tedious, which it is to most people,
when you die you just start over for more mundane and boring
times. It also explains why life seems so unfair. People are born
rich, others are born into lifelong poverty. Born again enough
times and you will experience it all eventually. Some people
call it the evolution of the soul, we're all just a work in progress,
because the universe is evolving also. Of course religious people
hate all of this, it takes all the authority they represent away from
them. It's the ultimate in blasphemy, but as history has
taught us, the truth is always blasphemy to the Church.

Fascinating stuff. Watch this video, it's the doctor who took over
the project at the UofV from the original professor. He's about
as exciting as dry toast, but he's a scientist, about what I'd expect.

For an atheist, this doesn't change much of
anything. If true, fine, it certainly answers a
lot of questions. It also shows just how completely
wrong the heaven and hell people really are.

We already know kids are not born with a fear
of death. Little kids who have terminal diseases
are not really afraid of dying, to them it seems
natural. It's religion that teaches us to be afraid.

When I was a yute, I came up with the theory that "souls" or "consciousness" was a tangible thing, and only the perfect made it to the afterlife. Life was basically experience. At the end of your life, if you hadn't perfected your soul, it was cast out to be used in another life for another go around for more experience. Once it was filled up and perfect, then you went to Nirvana or whatever.

Silly musings of a 13yr old, but whatever.

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At the end of your life, if you hadn't perfected your soul, it was cast out to be used in another life for another go around for more experience. Once it was filled up and perfect, then you went to Nirvana or whatever.
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That pretty much describes Hinduism.

Here's a whacky physicsy explaination.

Thoughts and consciousness are electrical impulses in your brain.
Electical impulses generate magnetic fields.
Magnetic fields can be turned into electrical impulses in the brain (science fact)
So, it is possible for thoughts and memories etc to be passed from brain to brain, subconscously, and land in ortherwise impress on the empty forming brains of the very young.

Reincarnation. also an explaination for "genetic" memory. Could even be how "instincts" are passed on within a species.

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Thoughts and consciousness are electrical impulses in your brain.
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There's lots of research now on the origin
of consciousness. It used to be thought it
originated in the brain. Now it's leaning
towards it exists outside of us and the brain
is just part of it. We are all part of a larger
consciousness that religious people knee
jerkingly name 'god'. They then give this
god all kinds of attributes and worship
him, when what they're doing in reality is
worshiping themselves.

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When I was a yute, I came up with the theory that "souls" or "consciousness" was a tangible thing, and only the perfect made it to the afterlife. Life was basically experience. At the end of your life, if you hadn't perfected your soul, it was cast out to be used in another life for another go around for more experience. Once it was filled up and perfect, then you went to Nirvana or whatever.

Silly musings of a 13yr old, but whatever.

Good grief I'll never get out of here.

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The very first case that Dr. Tucker describes in his book involves Kemal Atasoy, a six-year-old Muslim boy in Turkey who in great detail recalled a lifetime in which he was a wealthy Christian merchant named Karakas, who lived in Istanbul, 500 miles from where Kemal was born and raised.

Kemal's memories were later validated through meticulous research.

In Life Before Life, Dr. Tucker asks, “How did this little boy, living in a town 500 miles away, know so many things about a man who had died in Istanbul fifty years before he was born?...What possible explanation could there be?

Kemal had a very simple answer; he said that he had been the man in a previous life." (1)

Jim Tucker, Muslim Reincarnation, Kemal Atasoy, Life Before Life In this reincarnation case, a Muslim boy had spontaeous memories of being a Christian in a past lifetime. This case, like the case of Anne Frank | Barbro Karlen, demonstrates that religion, nationality & ethnic affiliation can change from one incarnation to another. This observation has the potential to create greater peace in the world.

When people realize they can be born Jewish in one lifetime and Islamic another, Christian in one lifetime and Muslim in another, Israeli in one era and Palestinian in another; conflict based on these cultural markers of identity will end.

I remember reading the stories of past lives long time ago, but hadn't run across anyone studying it in an academic way.

I met an interesting fellow, quite a while back. He said in an all black part of L.A., he was the only white guy playing blues guitar at the time. He got along well with the locals so they nicknamed him "spot".

When I met him he was measuring people [screened] for past lives. He was some acquaintance of my D.C. who got him to hook me up to a machine, I think he called it a "galvanometer" {?}. How it worked was he measured resistance across the body and then showed people photographs and recorded when resistance would change during certain photo's. It was fun.

That is starting to sound like a scientologist e-meter, and identifying memory engrams left by the thetans blown up at the volcanos.

Hopefully he stuck to trying to find past lives and didn't end up a scientologist.