Vicious TV series
August 21st, 2014 at 9:22:10 PM permalink | |
Pacomartin Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 1068 Posts: 12569 | Ian McKellen (age 75) and Derek Jacobi (age 75) are possibly the best known openly gay men of their generation. Yet while TV seems to be trying very hard to portray non-stereotypical gay characters, they seem overjoyed in playing the flamboyant stereotype. Do you think that Derek Jacobi, after playing the tortured Alan Turing (a gay man who lived his life in secret until committing suicide as a result of being forced to take a chemical castration drug by the police), enjoys playing a flamboyant gay character who lives his life openly. |
August 22nd, 2014 at 12:22:13 AM permalink | |
Evenbob Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 146 Posts: 25010 | The Gay men I've known love flaunting it. In their own circles they act just like this, I've seen it. The smarter they are, the more they enjoy it. If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose. |
August 22nd, 2014 at 3:55:09 AM permalink | |
odiousgambit Member since: Oct 28, 2012 Threads: 154 Posts: 5055 | I started watching the show because I wanted to give a chance, considering the actors. I only lasted 10 minutes. You have to love TV sitcoms, it is 100% in that vein. And you have to love bitch-slap humor, which doesnt do it for me. I'm Still Standing, Yeah, Yeah, Yeah [it's an old guy chant for me] |
August 23rd, 2014 at 6:14:09 AM permalink | |
Pacomartin Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 1068 Posts: 12569 |
Variety said that the material is as classy as your average Chuck Lorre show and is a pointed throwback to ’70s era schtick with decidedly un-P.C. humor and farcical plotlines that wouldn’t feel out of place in a “Three’s Company” rerun. Ian McKellen is a great actor portraying a mediocre one. Between them they have a room full of acting awards. |
August 23rd, 2014 at 12:09:58 PM permalink | |
Evenbob Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 146 Posts: 25010 | They're both 75 and the money is easy and good. Robin Williams took the series that failed because he said it was close to home, steady easy work, and a regular paycheck. Movies were too much work and too sporadic and emotionally draining, he said. I'm sure these guys feel the same, they have nothing to prove anymore. If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose. |
August 23rd, 2014 at 5:52:51 PM permalink | |
Pacomartin Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 1068 Posts: 12569 |
Robin Williams was being paid $3.63 million to do the TV series The Crazy ones. That was a far cry from the up to $20 million he was being paid 15 years ago for a single film. He hadn't had a hit movie other than animated films in many years. I don't think voice actors are paid the huge money that live actors make. In contrast, Ian McKellan is making probably close to $10 million per film in two different franchises. I think he enjoys doing this TV series. |
August 23rd, 2014 at 7:31:21 PM permalink | |
Evenbob Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 146 Posts: 25010 |
That's what I said. Older actors like the steady work and being close to home and getting the steady paycheck. Alec Baldwin only did all the seasons of 30 Rock for the residuals he'll get the rest of his life. Like the Seinfeld people, none have to work if they don't want to. If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose. |
August 23rd, 2014 at 7:53:26 PM permalink | |
Evenbob Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 146 Posts: 25010 | I think it's funny, I LOL'd a few times. These old pro's are good comic actors. If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose. |
August 23rd, 2014 at 10:02:46 PM permalink | |
Evenbob Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 146 Posts: 25010 | I just watched a 90 minute interview by the Screen Actors Guild of Ian McKellen and Patrick Stewart. It was wonderful. I wish it was an hour longer. The history these two extremely talented actors have is a treat to listen to. They are both so witty and so at ease, I was enthralled. At the end, the host said he's been doing this for 25 years and this was the best, most magical interview he's ever done. I'll see it again for sure. If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose. |
August 23rd, 2014 at 10:42:18 PM permalink | |
Pacomartin Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 1068 Posts: 12569 | That Frances de la Tour was pretty much of a knock-out half a century ago. |