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Quote: terapined

Check out the edits yourself
http://bennorton.com/dashcam-video-of-violent-arrest-of-sandra-bland-was-edited/

"A man leaves the truck in the center of the frame at 25:05. For the next 15 seconds, he walks toward the right of the frame and leaves. At 25:19, he suddenly appears again, promptly disappears, then returns at 25:22. The same footage of him walking is subsequently repeated"

"At 32:37, a white car drives into the left side of the frame, then promptly disappears in the middle of the road. Seconds later, the same car drives back into the frame and subsequently turns left. This footage is later looped several times.
A different white car also drives into the left side of the frame and turns left from 32:49 to 32:59. The previous white car again briefly enters the frame at 33:04, and once more at 33:06, yet it suddenly disappears both times. When these cuts are made in the footage, the lights on top of the truck in the center of the frame also abruptly cut out.
At 33:08, the exact same footage from 32:37 is repeated, followed by the same second white car at 33:17. "

All of this happens AFTER the woman was arrested and removed. I do not see where it has anything to do with the arrest.

Quote: AZDuffman

The first thing to remember is that she was being detained. When you are being detained, your behavior must change a bit. You need to be polite. You do not reach or make sudden movements. Both your and the officer's situational awareness has gone to a higher level. The goal is to end the situation and move on. You fight, if need be, in court later.

People totally don't get this, and it's cost more than one person their life.

A cop is not a judge or a lawyer or a jailor. They are an enforcer, and that is it. They enforce the law. It doesn't matter how wrong you think they are, or even how wrong they actually are, the exchange between you and he should not be confrontational.

I got pulled over once for using a cell phone while driving. At that point in my life, not only had I never owned a cell phone, but I had never even used one before. This was a good 6 years before I even got my first one. What really happened was I was picking roofing tar out of my sideburn while singing along to Brad Paisley. The cop saw hand up, mouth moving... he pulled me over.

The side of the road is not a place to fight. I got out of it by surrendering my rights and all but forcing him to search my car. He ended up laughing it off and sending me on my way. But arguing only would've went poorly. He probably would've even found my weed had I done so =p

People also don't truly understand the life of a cop. It's sort of like any other thing. You get pissed at the waitress for a messed up order, and assume she's an idiot or another lazy yute or whatever. You don't know that her kid is sick, or mom just got diagnosed with cancer, or her car just broke down and she's already late on the light bill. A cop is the same, only worse. A lot of times cops are assholes at your window. Most people cop an attitude right away. "Another entitled pig" or "another bully with a badge". Yeah, there are some of those. But maybe that cop just got done scooping brains into a bag from a suicide. Maybe he had to leave a beaten kid in home with a predator because mom refused to press charges. Maybe he just pulled a drunk out of a wreck with 3 fatalities. You know when they do that stuff, their day doesn't just end. They file their report, discard their protective gear, and then stage up on the side of the road. A cop could get attacked on a road side stop, have to subdue the attacker by force, and within the hour, be back on the road where he's got you pulled over.

Imagine you just had that happen. Now your right back in the scenario, on a road-side, and someone is getting aggitated and confrontational. You gonna let it escalate like the one 60 minutes ago and get your ass kicked or killed? Or are you gonna shut it down right away?

The Use of Force Ladder prevails. They'll always be one step above you. You talk back, they'll command. You defy, they'll yell. You yell, they're gonna put their hands on you. Put your hands on them, they're gonna use a weapon on you. Don't want to get beat up or killed? Don't put them in a position where they feel they need to.

Do your fighting in a suit and tie with a professional at your side. No one's ever been beat up or killed by "Your Honor".

Anyone remember this video? This driver would be dragged out and killed.

This dentist is getting an online beat down for shooting a favorite protected lion in Zimbabwe.

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"I had no idea that the lion I took was a known, local favorite, was collared and part of a study until the end of the hunt," Palmer said, according to CBS. "I deeply regret that my pursuit of an activity I love and practice responsibly and legally resulted in the taking of this lion."

Except for this part I might give him a break.

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According to the AP, this is not the first time Palmer has been in trouble for hunting. Palmer agreed to plead guilty in 2008 for lying to a federal agent about where he shot a black bear in Wisconsin. He was fined $3,000 and received probation.

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According to police spokeswoman Charity Charamba, Palmer will face charges of poaching, the AP reported. Emmanuel Fundira, the president of the Safari Operators Association of Zimbabwe, said that Palmer's whereabouts are currently unknown.

The conservation group alleges that Palmer worked with the guides to lure Cecil from the national park to an unprotected area by strapping a "dead animal to their vehicle."

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2015/07/28/minnesota-dentist-walter-james-palmer-cecil-lion-africa/30785881/

No one seeing a trophy on a wall knows how "sporting" the hunt was.

One california warden decided the poachers were probably trained in evasion. so he radically altertered his patrol patterns in the game preserve and using a tiny bell he had found on the trail approached one group. He kept sounding the little bell and the hunters thought it was one of their dogs (vocal cords snipped at birth) and equipped with a bell. by the time the hunters realized that all their dogs were already nearby, he hit them with the flash light and yelled game warden.

two cops and a lawyer had to look for new careers.

Quote: rxwine

This dentist is getting an online beat down for shooting a favorite protected lion in Zimbabwe.

I hope he is a candidate for "Locked Up Abroad." Good hunters follow the rules, he gives them a bad name.

Quote: AZDuffman

I hope he is a candidate for "Locked Up Abroad." Good hunters follow the rules, he gives them a bad name.

The story reported here, said he claimed to have hired professional guides and secured necessary permits. Sounds like he might have gotten scammed.

I will wait to hear more before deciding if he should be locked up in an African jail.

So many folks are pouncing on the fact that he is hunting anything at all. At least he is willing to put some money into their local economy. Seems a lot of humans there don't even have access to fresh water. Is it better to put resources into preserving animals than saving human lives?

Quote: Ayecarumba

So many folks are pouncing on the fact that he is hunting anything at all. At least he is willing to put some money into their local economy. Seems a lot of humans there don't even have access to fresh water. Is it better to put resources into preserving animals than saving human lives?

The best is to have large game preserves that allow hunting. This is proven to be one of the best ways to help the animals. Yes, some get hunted, but the owner has a vested interest in keeping as many as possible alive. Meanwhile it is a profitable business for the economy.

Quote: Ayecarumba

The story reported here, said he claimed to have hired professional guides and secured necessary permits. Sounds like he might have gotten scammed.

Some of the responses might be quelled if he can show that he did his best to find reputable guides and failed. And if it shows that he should have been more suspicious, it won't help his case.

But, on the other hand, yeah, if there was a video of him drowning puppies in his bathtub it would still be a tossup on what would be the worse backlash from a segment of the population, regardless of any bad intentions other than legitimate legal hunting.

Wouldn't want to be in his shoes right now, but if I was, I'd lay low for months and hope to be forgotten about. I wouldn't go on TV, except maybe once if I had a good defense. Better just to lay low, I think.

I don't see anyway hunters as a group would have anything but contempt for this guy. Blackeye for the sport.

Trophy hunters are a different breed anyway, especially exotic trophies. Wouldnt want to paint with too broad a brush and say they are all despicable, but I'm ready to bet a lot of them are not really "one of us" anymore than Madoff, say, was much of a representation of the rest of the financial adviser community.