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October 17th, 2021 at 4:01:55 AM permalink

AZDuffman

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Quote: missedhervee
And I find most global warming deniers to be clueless about hard science.

It's a condition precedent.

What you meant to say is they do not just swallow what they are being told is "science." That they are not mind numbed robots regurgitating what MSNBC and CNN are telling them.

Did you notice that it is now called a "climate emergency?" Is that because of "science?" Nope, it is because the media needs to amp it up as us deniers will not swallow their junk science claims.

If you believed in "hard science" you would not believe there are more than 2 genders. You would also believe that life begins at the moment of conception. I doubt you believe in either.

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October 17th, 2021 at 4:21:41 AM permalink

rxwine

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Quote: Tanko
That explains it. Climate change must be causing the global increase in arable land every year, plus record global crop yields and meat and fish production every year. Those yields are also accelerating at faster rates every year.

It also led to turning carbon into a commodity that can be traded on the carbon credit market. Each year a record number of carbon credits, which are another hidden tax on the consumer, are exchanged. While the poor sucker consumers think this is for their benefit, corporations like Tesla can sell their carbon credits to create or improve quarterly profits and increase the value of their shares. Then slick CEO’s like Elon Musk can get a $700 million performance-based bonus for increasing profits and market cap.

Carbon Credit ETF’s: KRBN has a YTD return of 50%. GRN 76%.

I don't really think Elon Musk is much more than a profiteer and a futurist. Also, we want people to make money from green energy. That's the whole idea of job replacement to greener energy jobs.

Not through fraud of course. But fraud is never going away in any industry.

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October 17th, 2021 at 4:40:32 AM permalink
rxwine Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 217 Posts: 22942	...also people gaming system doesn't go away with green energy. Sad, but to think otherwise is to pretend. All industry needs oversight. Same as always. "Trumpsplain (def.) explaining absolute nonsense said by TRUMP.

October 17th, 2021 at 5:16:56 AM permalink
Tanko Member since: Aug 15, 2019 Threads: 0 Posts: 2470	Quote: rxwine Also, we want people to make money from green energy. That's the whole idea of job replacement to greener energy jobs. Who's making the money? The US doesn't manufacture any of the materials. China makes the wind turbines and solar panels. All we do is install them. The 'high paying' US green jobs pay $60,000 to $70,000 less than their oil and gas counterparts.

October 17th, 2021 at 5:23:25 AM permalink

AZDuffman

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Quote: Tanko
Who's making the money? The US doesn't manufacture any of the materials. China makes the wind turbines and solar panels. All we do is install them. The 'high paying' US green jobs pay $60,000 to $70,000 less than their oil and gas counterparts.

It is about regulatory credits. See, why do you think the big boys go along with the climate change story? They want it regulated so that they can make money on "carbon credits." Jamie Dimon probably drools when he hears these plans. It is the same as happened to so much of US industry starting the late 1970s, they found they could make more on the financial part of the business than the business itself.

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October 17th, 2021 at 5:41:03 AM permalink

rxwine

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Quote: Tanko
Who's making the money? The US doesn't manufacture any of the materials. China makes the wind turbines and solar panels. All we do is install them. The 'high paying' US green jobs pay $60,000 to $70,000 less than their oil and gas counterparts.

You can't make as much selling wood stoves as you used to either. Or probably pencils as well. You can't even sell computers at the same high prices they commanded at one time.

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October 17th, 2021 at 5:46:28 AM permalink
rxwine Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 217 Posts: 22942	I think I heard the US sells a lot of wood to the Chinese for chopsticks. Not much of a tradeoff, eh? "Trumpsplain (def.) explaining absolute nonsense said by TRUMP.

October 17th, 2021 at 9:31:32 AM permalink
Pacomartin Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 1068 Posts: 12569	Quote: rxwine I don't really think Elon Musk is much more than a profiteer and a futurist. Al Gore was at one point called the world's first “carbon billionaire” although he denied the claim.

November 2nd, 2021 at 12:12:11 PM permalink
SOOPOO Member since: Feb 19, 2014 Threads: 25 Posts: 5748	400 private jets arrived for the big ‘Climate Change Summit’ in Scotland. The hypocrisy of those attending is rampant.

November 2nd, 2021 at 12:41:10 PM permalink

rxwine

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Quote: SOOPOO
400 private jets arrived for the big ‘Climate Change Summit’ in Scotland. The hypocrisy of those attending is rampant.

At least 120 could be world leaders unless you think they should fly commercial.

Not sure if Biden's plane has fighter jets accompany it overseas but it may. They don't normally accompany it in the US though.

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