Nuclear proliferation

With the fat oaf stupidly trying to kill NATO and remove the American nuclear umbrella from the rest of the world it is time for Germany and Japan to develop their own atomic weapons.

The deal was they agreed not to do so if we protected them.

Germany started two world wars and Japan attacked the USA without warning: how will history repeat itself next?

Stay tuned for more of Trump's Folly...

We are going to get more nuclear countries soon.

Iran would be foolish to not want nuclear weapons now. If the U.S. pulls out of NATO for countries will need their own weapons for defense.

We are entering a world where there will be more weapons than ever, all because we started an illegal war with a nation who was not building a nuclear weapon.

Quote: Gandler

We are going to get more nuclear countries soon.

Iran would be foolish to not want nuclear weapons now. If the U.S. pulls out of NATO for countries will need their own weapons for defense.

We are entering a world where there will be more weapons than ever, all because we started an illegal war with a nation who was not building a nuclear weapon.

Naive definition in dictionary = picture of Gandler. Half the left says Iran wasn’t developing a nuclear weapon. The other half says we failed at degrading their ability to do so! TDS has many manifestations!

What countries do you TRULY believe will be ‘nuclear’ SOON?

You did post that….

Quote: SOOPOO

Naive definition in dictionary = picture of Gandler. Half the left says Iran wasn’t developing a nuclear weapon. The other half says we failed at degrading their ability to do so! TDS has many manifestations!

What countries do you TRULY believe will be ‘nuclear’ SOON?

You did post that….

Iran was not developing a nuclear weapon. They have nuclear materials for civil and scientific purposes (which they have a right to have.). There is zero evidence released that they were developing a weapon. They were enriching to a higher extent than before, but since Trump tore up the agreement, that is not our business anymore.

Iran will work on a nuclear weapon now (and frankly they should from their perspective, they would not get these illegal attacks if they had one.

But, with Trump working on limiting NATO more allied countries will want nuclear weapons (and frankly it makes sense from their perspective as well.)


We did fail at degrading their ability. Last summer we were told that illegal war pushed back their development "years," less than 8 months later, another illegal war because they are "weeks away.". Gandler is not the one with the inconsistency, Trump and the Israelis are the ones who keep changing their ability and intent...

Quote: Gandler

Iran was not developing a nuclear weapon. They have nuclear materials for civil and scientific purposes (which they have a right to have.).

now I'm starting to think we have had someone here who works for Iran's propaganda department. At least these very words could have been copied directly from that department.

whether you believe the propaganda or not, one reason Iran can not be allowed to get such a weapon is it will cause everyone in the region to get one also ... the very opposite of the thinking of mr V et al

Why shouldn't any country that wants to develop nuclear weapons?

Who are we to tell them what to do?

What moral authority gives us such a right?

I ask this as the Devil's Advocate: personally I view the iranians as the enemy (whether or not they have nukes) and suggest we crush them, but hey, that's just me.

The fat oaf got off with a bang but has fizzled out since...why?

Quote: odiousgambit

now I'm starting to think we have had someone here who works for Iran's propaganda department. At least these very words could have been copied directly from that department.

whether you believe the propaganda or not, one reason Iran can not be allowed to get such a weapon is it will cause everyone in the region to get one also ... the very opposite of the thinking of mr V et al

Then Trump shouldn't have ripped up the deal that they were abiding by in 2018. As far as I am concerned, they have no obligation to hold to a deal that we are not holding to. I see no issues with what they did.

I mean, the most dangerous country in the Middle East already has nukes, so Iran does not worry me.

wow. Why there are still some Jews who belong to a party so full of leftists ... the modern Left anyway ... is beyond me. Of course I mean the Dems