Trump 2025

Yes, Trump is "getting things done," but not all are good things, and at what price?

Americans, not foreign countries, pay / will pay the tariffs: this will allow a tax break for billionaires.

The deficit will get much worse also.

It's the classic "Have the fox dress up like a chicken so he can raid the coop."

The sad thing is the democrats were equally clueless: to their credit they weren't quite as corrupt, but that isn't saying much.

Quote: missedhervee

Yes, Trump is "getting things done," but not all are good things, and at what price?

Americans, not foreign countries, pay / will pay the tariffs: this will allow a tax break for billionaires.

Tax break for billionaires? How, exactly?

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The deficit will get much worse also.

Then explain the surplus last month. Explain.

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The sad thing is the democrats were equally clueless: to their credit they weren't quite as corrupt, but that isn't saying much.

The Democrats ran on MAGA--Make Abortion Great Again! And currently they have zero to offer or even say other than "TRUMP BAD!" Kind of like you.

Oh, yeah, Trump is talking about rebating the tariff revenue to the people.

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on the lighter side - the YT vid shows Trump cheating at golf - is anybody surprised__________?

his caddie throws the ball backwards giving him a better lie

the vid got almost a million views in just a few days - the comments on the vid are great.

Quote: AZDuffman

Yeah, and Snopes is a totally unbiased site!

thinks Snopes is biased - no problem - no need for Snopes

just watch fhe virst minute of the vid - it's there for everybody to see

oh, wait - I almost forgot - you can claim the YT vid is a fake too__________that's the ticket - sure it is - not

oh, I almost forgot - here's another example of "biased" Snopes shooting down a lie about Trump -

"No, Trump Did Not Call Neo-Nazis and White Supremacists 'Very Fine People'"

here some more of "biased" Snopes shooting down lies about Trump

"No, Trump did not call teachers 'ugly' in Truth Social post"

"Don't fall for fake Trump post mocking people 'crying about the stock market"

"Did Trump Wish DeSantis 'Happy Pride Month' in Post with Homophobic Slur?" - Snopes calls it false

"Don't believe fake Trump post about George Soros paying protesters"


https://www.snopes.com/collections/trump-truth-social-collection/

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/trump-very-fine-people/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-Fkz7F8PgE

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Tax break for billionaires? How, exactly?

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Glad you asked...per google...

"The "Big, Beautiful Bill," formally known as the One Big Beautiful Bill Act, is structured to disproportionately benefit wealthy individuals and high-income earners through various tax cuts and policy changes. While some provisions may offer benefits to lower-income individuals, the overall impact of the bill is a significant transfer of wealth towards the top 1% and other high-income brackets.
Here's a breakdown of how the wealthy benefit:
Tax Cuts:

Permanent extension of 2017 tax cuts:
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The bill extends tax cuts from the 2017 Tax Cuts and Jobs Act, which overwhelmingly benefited high-income earners.
Increased deductions:
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The bill expands the amount of state and local taxes (SALT) that can be deducted, with the biggest beneficiaries being high-income households in high-tax states.
Estate tax reduction:
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The bill permanently reduces the estate tax, which primarily impacts the wealthy who inherit large estates.
Permanent expensing for investments:
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Allowing businesses to write off investments immediately incentivizes investment, which tends to benefit larger corporations and wealthy individuals.
Tax breaks for pass-through businesses:
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The bill increases a special deduction for owners of pass-through entities (like partnerships and LLCs), which can result in significant tax savings for high-income earners.

Other Provisions:

Spending cuts:
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To offset the cost of tax cuts, the bill proposes cuts to social programs like Medicaid and food assistance, disproportionately impacting lower-income individuals and families.
Increased tax on university endowments:
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While intended to hold universities accountable, this provision disproportionately affects large, wealthy institutions.
Increased tax on large non-profits:
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Similar to the university endowment provision, this targets large non-profits that resemble hedge funds, which often have wealthy individuals involved.

Overall Impact:

Wealth transfer:
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The bill's structure creates a significant transfer of wealth from lower and middle-income individuals to the wealthy.
Increased inequality:
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The bill's focus on tax cuts for the rich while cutting social programs exacerbates wealth inequality.
Potential for economic growth:
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Some argue that the tax cuts, particularly those for businesses, will stimulate economic growth and benefit everyone in the long run. However, critics argue that the economic benefits will be concentrated at the top.
Increased national debt:
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The bill's tax cuts and spending increases are projected to add trillions to the national debt over the next decade.

In conclusion, while the One Big Beautiful Bill Act may have some provisions that offer benefits to a broader range of individuals, its primary beneficiaries are the wealthy and high-income earners through tax cuts and policies that favor them. "

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Glad you asked...per google...

"The "Big, Beautiful Bill," formally known as the One Big Beautiful Bill Act, is structured to disproportionately benefit wealthy individuals and high-income earners through various tax cuts and policy changes. While some provisions may offer benefits to lower-income individuals, the overall impact of the bill is a significant transfer of wealth towards the top 1% and other high-income brackets.

First problem--how are tax cuts a transfer of wealth? THEY ARE NOT! So you are factually incorrect from the start.


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The bill permanently reduces the estate tax, which primarily impacts the wealthy who inherit large estates.

A good thing. Tax has already been paid on the wealth of the estate.

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Permanent expensing for investments:
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Allowing businesses to write off investments immediately incentivizes investment, which tends to benefit larger corporations and wealthy individuals.

So, increasing investment is a bad thing in your world? A libertarian would like this provision, showing you are not one yet again.

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Tax breaks for pass-through businesses:
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The bill increases a special deduction for owners of pass-through entities (like partnerships and LLCs), which can result in significant tax savings for high-income earners.

I had a pass-thru LLC, I was not aware I was high-income. In any case, this sounds like making sure we tax income only once, not the same income more than once. Again, a good thing.

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To offset the cost of tax cuts, the bill proposes cuts to social programs like Medicaid and food assistance, disproportionately impacting lower-income individuals and families.
Increased tax on university endowments:

It has been proven all this is doing is putting these programs back to the track before the china virus increases. A good thing.
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The bill's structure creates a significant transfer of wealth from lower and middle-income individuals to the wealthy.

How? Is it increasing taxes on the lower classes to hand out $$$ to the wealthy?


See, you claim you are a libertarian and not a liberal. However, this post alone shows you are far-left. You favor taking money from some at the point of a gun and giving it to others. That is liberal.

Quote: AZDuffman

You favor taking money from some at the point of a gun and giving it to others.

just one more lie -

I need to stop responding to Bozo the Clown Duffman - not worth my time - this will be the last time

he should be treated just like DoubleGold - completely ignored

missedhervee didn't advocate taking money from anybody

and nothing about any kind of gun - literally or figuratively

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I truly think hell is freezing over. Chris Matthews the whining lib who got a thrill up his leg when Obama was nominated, Chris Matthews who bitched and moaned about Trump Non-Stop in his first term, Chris Matthews who hates Trump's guts, it's now saying well, he does seem to be doing a good job. He does seem to be a very strong president and if the Democrats have any hope they have to find a strong candidate for themselves. As he was saying this he looked totally weak and defeated, like somebody just told him his German Shepherd got hit by a car. Trump hasn't changed he's always been this way. It just took them this long to see it because they had TDS. And they have no strong candidates all they have is weak sissies who pee their pants at the thought of standing up to anybody. Look at what's happening in the UK, the whole country has been run by weak sissies for the last 25 years and now they're paying for it. The people are rioting every day because of immigration and they're talking about Civil War. This is what happens when you let liberals run things they have no idea what they're doing.

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See, you claim you are a libertarian and not a liberal. However, this post alone shows you are far-left.

No, I said that in presidential elections I VOTE libertarian due to dissatisfaction with our current two party system.

I am not a libertarian, I am an open minded Independent voter, I call it as I see it without first having it filtered through my chosen MSM outlet.

Also I didn't write the post: as indicated it was from google and offered purely to summarize the relevant points.

Quote: missedhervee

No, I said that in presidential elections I VOTE libertarian due to dissatisfaction with our current two party system.

I am not a libertarian, I am an open minded Independent voter, I call it as I see it without first having it filtered through my chosen MSM outlet.

Your positions are liberal. Pure and simple.

Whatever, choose your delusion.

It's what you do.