Homelessness

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it'a a gigantic problem that just keeps getting bigger and bigger

in the news today L.A. has refused an order from the State to clear homeless encampments on public grounds - see link

there are an estimated 653,000 homeless persons in the U.S. - the figure jumped 12% between 2022 and 2023


https://archive.ph/RAEyS

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I am actually impressed Newsome issued such an order. I am sure LA won't be the only city that ignores it thought. This is not something I have been carefully following. But, they definitely need to start clearing some of the camps, it is getting crazy.

Quote: Gandler

I am actually impressed Newsome issued such an order. I am sure LA won't be the only city that ignores it thought. This is not something I have been carefully following. But, they definitely need to start clearing some of the camps, it is getting crazy.

It has been crazy for years in CA. Last 3 years or so it has gotten bad in the rest of the USA. But CA has coddled the homeless while punishing people who have to deal with them. But as long as people keep voting in the same people why would it change?

Quote: AZDuffman

It has been crazy for years in CA. Last 3 years or so it has gotten bad in the rest of the USA. But CA has coddled the homeless while punishing people who have to deal with them. But as long as people keep voting in the same people why would it change?

I agree, let's vote in the homeless so we can get the necessary changes.

Quote: AZDuffman

It has been crazy for years in CA. Last 3 years or so it has gotten bad in the rest of the USA. But CA has coddled the homeless while punishing people who have to deal with them. But as long as people keep voting in the same people why would it change?

Eventually things get bad enough, that even the most indoctrinated change. You can be a crazy hippy couple, but when your kids are playing in a front yard filled with needles and beer cans, because the vacant lot next to your house became a homeless beer party your perspective starts to shift.

Homeless drug users are the main problem.

Solution, albeit draconian and costly: if they refuse to successfully complete drug treatment, force them to be essentially imprisoned in work camps, building trails, planting trees, picking up highway trash.

Require they be treated for their drug addiction while there, release them when treatment finishes.

Otherwise...what, continue with the way things are?

Quote: missedhervee

Homeless drug users are the main problem.

Solution, albeit draconian and costly: if they refuse to successfully complete drug treatment, force them to be essentially imprisoned in work camps, building trails, planting trees, picking up highway trash.

Require they be treated for their drug addiction while there, release them when treatment finishes.

Otherwise...what, continue with the way things are?

We had similar things in the past, not work camps, but it was much easier for the government to force people into mental health institutions and keep them there. The police simply cannot round up people like they used to.

Everyone has hard times in their life. I don't look down on people that are homeless briefly due to life circumstances, I am talking about the types of people that live in camps on the sidewalk for years, and are just crazy.

Ditto.

Society has zero use for the wasteoids doing fentanyl and blocking city sidewalks with their tents and tarps.

Force them into treatment whether they like it or not: why not?

Have things gotten so bad here that they have a Constitutional right to free food, free housing, and free medical care while contributiong nothing, and getting high all the time?

Harsh situations requier harsh solutions.

If so...*shudder*

I have said many times I left California in 1983 because of homeless people and that was over 40 years ago. I got tired of my van being constantly broken into and the house I was renting being vandalized. I cannot even imagine what it's like now and it was bad 40 years ago.

Looks like the city just tore down a nearby homeless camp. I’ll be checking it out in the morning.