Kamala Harris

Quote: GenoDRPh

Some algorithms get funny over the r-word, so (g)rape is a disguise to fool the algorithm. You'll just have to deal with it.

what? DT has a censoring algorithm now?

Quote: rxwine

What's the claim here?

Let's look at Sally Jennings. Her children were descended from a slave owner. That slave owner was Thomas Jefferson. But that does not mean her children are associated with being a slave owner in the sense of a consensual family.

What you wrote is not clear to me, but I think you are assuming that VP Harris is indeed descended from a slave. That's easy to suspect, but ...

*we don't know that. VP Harris does not claim that even though it would wash away the 'descendent of a slave owner' stigma. The Grandmother could even be white, we don't seem to know.
*VP Harris's father could help but has clammed up about the whole business.
*a very good researcher could clear this up, the Brown family of today would know who slave-owner Brown's descendants are, both legitimate and illegitimate ... unless the grandmother could never prove what she claimed.
*so I have to believe someone has done that research and is not talking. Why?

The source is Reuters, so read at your own risk.

I posted the Reuters link earlier in this thread but you can access it from this source.

The Reuters source has a weird format, so play with it until you can read it.


All of the genetics need to be cleaned out and absolutely no more voted in.


"the original sin of the country"


I also posted references of the slave-traders.

Those genetic lines need to be parsed and thrown out too but are not covered in these articles.


If a person is a spouse of a genetic slave-owner or genetic slave-trader, then they should be thrown out too.

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Report: Many politicians, including 5 presidents, found to have descended from SLAVE OWNERS

06/29/2023
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Aside from Biden, former Presidents Jimmy Carter, George W. Bush, Bill Clinton and Barack Obama are direct descendants of slaveholders. Obama, the nation's first Black president, descended from slave-owning Americans through his mother, anthropologist Ann Dunham (1942-1995). Incumbent Supreme Court Justices Amy Coney Barrett and Neil Gorsuch also have direct ancestors who owned slaves.

Reuters also found that the governors of 11 states – Alabama, Arkansas, Georgia, Kentucky, Louisiana, Missouri, North Carolina, North Dakota, South Carolina, Tennessee and Virginia – were also descendants of slaveholders. At least 100 members of the current Congress also descended from slave owners, with these connections spanning across party lines.

Joseph Maddox, the great-great-great-grandfather of Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-SC), was cited as one example. A February 1845 receipt from the sale of Maddox's estate named the sale of eight people he had enslaved, including five Black children. An aide to the senator said in a statement that the lawmaker "has called slavery 'the original sin of the country.'" (Related: Family of New York Times has ties to slavery and Confederacy, so the "cancel culture" mob has to tear it down, right?)

Sen. Tammy Duckworth (D-IL) was also found to be connected to a slave owner. Henry Coe, the great-great-great-great-great-grandfather of the junior senator for the Prairie State, allegedly left several slaves to various family members upon his death.

"I have to acknowledge that I am also a daughter of people who enslaved other people," Duckworth told Reuters. "I think it's a disservice to our nation and our history to walk away from this."

Trump a descendant of legal immigrants, not slave owners
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https://www.naturalnews.com/2023-06-29-report-many-politicians-descended-from-slave-owners.html

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Let's look at this again

Quote: K. Harris's father's wikipedia page

Harris's paternal grandmother, born Christiana Brown, told Harris that she was descended from Irish-born plantation owner Hamilton Brown (1776–1843), who founded the local Anglican Church where she is buried.

Slaves would certainly not be buried in the church Hamilton Brown founded

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Hamilton Brown owned at least 1,120 slaves, most of them on sugar plantations in Saint Ann Parish, and was 'instrumental in the importing of several hundred labourers ...

the word slave is not used here

Quote:

... and their families from Ireland

note well, Ireland ... the writer of this little ditty seems to be suggesting that Christiana Brown, that grandmother we are talking about, was Irish. Thus, also, eligible to be buried in the church.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_J._Harris

Politicians that are genetically related and/or married to slave-owners or slave-traders:

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Science Is Proving That Tragic Curses Are Real

Epigenetics and behaviorism suggest the ancient Greeks were right.

November 12, 2015
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In his 1999 essay “Ancestral Curses,” classical scholar Martin West decries other critics’ tendency to refer to the term inherited curse “when what they mean is inherited guilt, or some kind of genetic corruption, or persistent but unexplained adversity.” Ancestral curses, genetic corruption. The conflation is telling: Study both closely enough, and the line between them blurs. It’s the loaded connotations of the word “curse”—supernatural, occult, folkloric—that throw us off.

If we understand a curse as nothing more or less than that double helix snaking through our chromosomes, or the hard lessons of behaviorism, then how much has our understanding of fate really changed in two and a half millennia?
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https://nautil.us/science-is-proving-that-tragic-curses-are-real-235689/

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Quote: odiousgambit

what? DT has a censoring algorithm now?

Better safe than sorry. You'll just have to deal with it.

Quote: odiousgambit

What you wrote is not clear to me, but I think you are assuming that VP Harris is indeed descended from a slave. That's easy to suspect, but ...

*we don't know that. VP Harris does not claim that even though it would wash away the 'descendent of a slave owner' stigma. The Grandmother could even be white, we don't seem to know.
*VP Harris's father could help but has clammed up about the whole business.
*a very good researcher could clear this up, the Brown family of today would know who slave-owner Brown's descendants are, both legitimate and illegitimate ... unless the grandmother could never prove what she claimed.
*so I have to believe someone has done that research and is not talking. Why?

What stigma exists to Kamala as a descendant of a slave owner? Nobody has been able to answer this question, unless you wish to hold her personally responsible for Brown's slave owning hundred of years ago. You think Kamala is burdened by some generational, stigmatic engram, to pull a term from Scientology?

Allow me to restate the question:

What does her slave owning ancestry matter today, in the here and now?

Quote: odiousgambit

Let's look at this again

Slaves would certainly not be buried in the church Hamilton Brown founded

the word slave is not used here

note well, Ireland ... the writer of this little ditty seems to be suggesting that Christiana Brown, that grandmother we are talking about, was Irish. Thus, also, eligible to be buried in the church.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_J._Harris

Huh?

Quote: GenoDRPh

What does her slave owning ancestry matter today, in the here and now?

Please explain this to members of her own party who want reparations for slavery.

Quote: DoubleGold

The source is Reuters, so read at your own risk.

I posted the Reuters link earlier in this thread but you can access it from this source.

The Reuters source has a weird format, so play with it until you can read it.


All of the genetics need to be cleaned out and absolutely no more voted in.


"the original sin of the country"


I also posted references of the slave-traders.

Those genetic lines need to be parsed and thrown out too but are not covered in these articles.


If a person is a spouse of a genetic slave-owner or genetic slave-trader, then they should be thrown out too.

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Report: Many politicians, including 5 presidents, found to have descended from SLAVE OWNERS

06/29/2023
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Aside from Biden, former Presidents Jimmy Carter, George W. Bush, Bill Clinton and Barack Obama are direct descendants of slaveholders. Obama, the nation's first Black president, descended from slave-owning Americans through his mother, anthropologist Ann Dunham (1942-1995). Incumbent Supreme Court Justices Amy Coney Barrett and Neil Gorsuch also have direct ancestors who owned slaves.

Reuters also found that the governors of 11 states – Alabama, Arkansas, Georgia, Kentucky, Louisiana, Missouri, North Carolina, North Dakota, South Carolina, Tennessee and Virginia – were also descendants of slaveholders. At least 100 members of the current Congress also descended from slave owners, with these connections spanning across party lines.

Joseph Maddox, the great-great-great-grandfather of Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-SC), was cited as one example. A February 1845 receipt from the sale of Maddox's estate named the sale of eight people he had enslaved, including five Black children. An aide to the senator said in a statement that the lawmaker "has called slavery 'the original sin of the country.'" (Related: Family of New York Times has ties to slavery and Confederacy, so the "cancel culture" mob has to tear it down, right?)

Sen. Tammy Duckworth (D-IL) was also found to be connected to a slave owner. Henry Coe, the great-great-great-great-great-grandfather of the junior senator for the Prairie State, allegedly left several slaves to various family members upon his death.

"I have to acknowledge that I am also a daughter of people who enslaved other people," Duckworth told Reuters. "I think it's a disservice to our nation and our history to walk away from this."

Trump a descendant of legal immigrants, not slave owners
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https://www.naturalnews.com/2023-06-29-report-many-politicians-descended-from-slave-owners.html

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To be safe, we should only elect or appoint into public office only those people who descended fully from peoples who emigrated to the US on or after 1865. That's the only real way to be reliably sure they never owned slaves in the US.

This whole thing if just ridiculous.