Kamala Harris

August 17th, 2024 at 4:34:57 PM permalink
JimRockford
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Quote: AZDuffman
Democrat Congress passed it in the early 70s.

Wrong. Nixon did it by executive order in August 1971. It led to the problems you mentioned as well as massive inflation when the freeze was lifted in 1973. You can’t say it failed though. It achieved its purpose of helping Nixon get reelected in 1972.
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August 17th, 2024 at 4:54:22 PM permalink
AZDuffman
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Quote: JimRockford
Wrong. Nixon did it by executive order in August 1971. It led to the problems you mentioned as well as massive inflation when the freeze was lifted in 1973. You can’t say it failed though. It achieved its purpose of helping Nixon get reelected in 1972.


Well, I admit I do not know that detail. I do know it was a disaster no matter who did it. And it will be a disaster if tried again.
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August 17th, 2024 at 5:21:34 PM permalink
ams288
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Well, I admit I do not know that detail. I do know it was a disaster no matter who did it. And it will be a disaster if tried again.


LMAO
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August 17th, 2024 at 5:55:16 PM permalink
Evenbob
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Quote: AZDuffman
Well, I admit I do not know that detail. I do know it was a disaster no matter who did it. And it will be a disaster if tried again.


It's a disaster everywhere it's been tried, even the liberal media is saying that. They must be afraid that she would actually be stupid enough to do it.
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August 18th, 2024 at 2:31:08 AM permalink
AZDuffman
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Quote: Evenbob
It's a disaster everywhere it's been tried, even the liberal media is saying that. They must be afraid that she would actually be stupid enough to do it.


The problem is it always sounds good to the uninformed. They think people will just sell at a loss. They think you can just lower prices by magic.
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August 18th, 2024 at 4:08:57 AM permalink
ams288
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Quote: AZDuffman
The problem is it always sounds good to the uninformed. They think people will just sell at a loss. They think you can just lower prices by magic.


So righties admit Donny won’t magically be able to lower prices like he claims at his weird ramble rallies.

Interesting.
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August 18th, 2024 at 4:42:29 AM permalink
DoubleGold
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Recently, both parties injected trillions beginning with C19.

I estimate they debased the currency by about 40%.

So prices, all things considered equal, will gravitate 40% higher before the crash.



One thing Trump can do to break out of this, is to pay down debt with Oil & Gas production.

I mean really flood the markets.

Hammer the bids all the way to $30 per barrel, etc.


He also needs to sell assets and downsize government.

And eliminate donations to other countries.
August 18th, 2024 at 5:36:40 AM permalink
Tanko
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Quote: DoubleGold
One thing Trump can do to break out of this, is to pay down debt with Oil & Gas production.

I mean really flood the markets.


US oil production is a an all time high. Natural gas production is near last year's all time high.

Prices are up because it costs more to produce both due to new regulations.

If we flood the market, other oil producing nations will only cut back on their own production to keep the prices high.
August 18th, 2024 at 9:28:18 AM permalink
GenoDRPh
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Quote: Tanko
US oil production is a an all time high. Natural gas production is near last year's all time high.

Prices are up because it costs more to produce both due to new regulations.

If we flood the market, other oil producing nations will only cut back on their own production to keep the prices high.


US oil refineries were and are designed to refine imported heavy sour oil, originally from Mexico, Canada and Venezuela. They were and are not designed and built to refine the light sweet crude from domestic wells. Furthermore, the infrastructure is undersized to transport domestic oil from its well to the refineries. But the infrastructure is there to transport imported oil from ports to the refineries. In addition, increasing emphasis on renewable energy generation makes investments in refineries and oil infrastructure less profitable. So it's a combination of economics, infrastructure and chemistry.

There is so much natural gas produced, usually as a byproduct of oil mining, that the NG is usually flared off to be disposed of instead of captured and sold. It is literala a waste product. There is no more storage capacity to store it all. There is no more pipeline capacity to move it all.

And, so far, I haven't heard Donny nor Kamala address the above. All we get are platitude about "energy independence" and "drill, baby, drill". Well, we already pump more oil than we can use, but can't use much of it because our refineries are old and outdated and need heavy sour imported crude.
August 18th, 2024 at 10:28:09 AM permalink
Tanko
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Quote: GenoDRPh
Furthermore, the infrastructure is undersized to transport domestic oil from its well to the refineries.


Shutting down Keystone didn't help to encourage investment in new pipelines..

No need to let a good crisis go to waste.

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