Grafton, NH
December 16th, 2023 at 8:32:36 AM permalink | |
GenoDRPh Member since: Aug 24, 2023 Threads: 0 Posts: 649 |
. I dare you to point out where I stated an objection to your plan. Put up or you-know-what. |
December 16th, 2023 at 8:36:00 AM permalink | |
GenoDRPh Member since: Aug 24, 2023 Threads: 0 Posts: 649 |
Obama didn't have a filibuster proof majority after Ted Kennedy died and Scott Brown was elected to replace him. |
December 16th, 2023 at 8:39:21 AM permalink | |
GenoDRPh Member since: Aug 24, 2023 Threads: 0 Posts: 649 |
Make up your mind already, Would you protect the MW against going down due to deflation, or would you not because deflation is historically rare? |
December 16th, 2023 at 8:40:00 AM permalink | |
Mission146 Administrator Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 23 Posts: 4147 |
Objection noted, negative response.
Objection noted, disregarded as immaterial because the current system already works that way. Increasing the Federal Minimum Wage (with inflation index) does that, and only that, and need not affect anything else.
Objection noted, disregarded as immaterial because there's no reason it should have to. I did point out that it could, conditionally, but only for those employers who were paying more than what the old minimum wage was, but less than it would be after an increase.
Not really an objection, but totally irrelevant to Obama's Congress.
I'd already established mine wouldn't do that. I don't know, maybe I'm being too defensive. Either way, my plan is bulletproof. "War is the remedy that our enemies have chosen..let us give them all they want." William T. Sherman |
December 16th, 2023 at 8:41:34 AM permalink | |
Mission146 Administrator Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 23 Posts: 4147 |
Do you really want to be the Republican who objects to MW increasing by 1-3% every year? It's an extremely moderate, though effective, proposal. I can't imagine a scenario where, as a stand-alone bill, they couldn't get a handful of moderate Republicans on board. I think it's actually more likely that it would have passed with overwhelming approval. "War is the remedy that our enemies have chosen..let us give them all they want." William T. Sherman |
December 16th, 2023 at 8:42:28 AM permalink | |
Mission146 Administrator Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 23 Posts: 4147 |
I've already said it couldn't possibly decrease in my system. I was defending DRich to the extent that, even if it could, it's not as if that actually happens very often or would have had disastrous outcomes when it did. "War is the remedy that our enemies have chosen..let us give them all they want." William T. Sherman |
December 16th, 2023 at 8:54:19 AM permalink | |
GenoDRPh Member since: Aug 24, 2023 Threads: 0 Posts: 649 |
We are awaiting a moderate Republican to introduce a bill that increases the MW. But even the moderate GOP opposes increases to the min wage. And this includes any mod GOP in Obama's congress. during his tenure. |
December 16th, 2023 at 9:05:29 AM permalink | |
Mission146 Administrator Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 23 Posts: 4147 |
Here you go: https://www.romney.senate.gov/romney-cotton-colleagues-introduce-bill-to-raise-minimum-wage/#:~:text=WASHINGTON%E2%80%94%20U.S.%20Senators%20Mitt%20Romney,and%20mandate%20E%2DVerify%20to Unfortunately, it has more attached to it than my simple proposal does and that's before they really start putting riders on it and make it seven million pages long. Let me read along with this and see what my objections might be to it:
Immediately, I'm opposed to ensuring the wage increase only goes to legal workers. Not only would I not want undocumented folks to be totally wage-exploited, but also, I wouldn't want them to be able to compete favorably against, 'Legal workers,' by being able to take less than Minimum Wage. The idea of having a baseline is that everyone starts at that baseline, regardless of their situation. Undocumented workers are still human beings. I'm slightly opposed to a slower phase-in for small businesses, but that's not an automatic no for me. I'd have to look at the specifics.
As I said, I'd target $12-$13 after three years and make it annually indexed to inflation. Still, this is better than nothing.
I don't think I like it, but I could live with it. I'd prefer fewer than ten. 10-19 isn't really THAT small. "War is the remedy that our enemies have chosen..let us give them all they want." William T. Sherman |
December 16th, 2023 at 9:15:29 AM permalink | |
Mission146 Administrator Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 23 Posts: 4147 | They first introduced that in 2021. I don't know if a similar bill was introduced before that, or not, but I've been saying it since at least 2017 or 2018. I seriously doubt that I'm the first person to ever get this idea, so don't get the impression I'm claiming to be. "War is the remedy that our enemies have chosen..let us give them all they want." William T. Sherman |
December 16th, 2023 at 9:32:54 AM permalink | |
Mission146 Administrator Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 23 Posts: 4147 | We done, here? I just set the trap; I didn't make you walk into it. "War is the remedy that our enemies have chosen..let us give them all they want." William T. Sherman |