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| GenoDRPh Member since: Aug 24, 2023 Threads: 5 Posts: 3082 | Quote: missedhervee Says you.
Many would disagree, which is why she LOST.
America was not and is not ready for a progressive political and social agenda.
That's what east and west coast liberal cities want, but the rest of us say "nope."
And look where it got us. Have the days you voted for. |
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| terapined1 Member since: Nov 26, 2024 Threads: 2 Posts: 956 | Quote: GenoDRPh And look where it got us. Have the days you voted for.
Harris would have won in a landslide if the country knew Trump and the entire republican party would go to war with Iran closing the Strait raising gas prices and inflation |
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| missedhervee Member since: Apr 23, 2021 Threads: 171 Posts: 5792 | That's part of it.
But disenchantment with progressive politics was the linchpin.
Plus her being female and of mixed race didn't help at all. |
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| terapined1 Member since: Nov 26, 2024 Threads: 2 Posts: 956 | Quote: missedhervee That's part of it.
But disenchantment with progressive politics was the linchpin.
If that's true How did Obama get elected How did he get re elected If the Dems crush on the midterms It has absolutely nothing to do with America embracing progressive politics Everything to do with rising prices and an unpopular war |
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| missedhervee Member since: Apr 23, 2021 Threads: 171 Posts: 5792 | Obama was liberal but he rode the wave which predated BLM and antifa, the riots etc. He was a slick talker, looked good in a suit, and people were fed up with Bush. |
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| DRich Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 57 Posts: 5924 | Quote: terapined1 Harris would have won in a landslide if the country knew Trump and the entire republican party would go to war with Iran closing the Strait raising gas prices and inflation
That is easy to say in retrospect, what we don't know is what would Harris have done that the public doesn't like? At my age a Life In Prison sentence is not much of a deterrent. |
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| DRich Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 57 Posts: 5924 | Quote: missedhervee Obama was liberal but he rode the wave which predated BLM and antifa, the riots etc. He was a slick talker, looked good in a suit, and people were fed up with Bush.
Many people don't realize how militant Obama was. He was having multiple people assassinated weekly. Read up on his Tuesday weekly kill list meetings. At my age a Life In Prison sentence is not much of a deterrent. |
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| GenoDRPh Member since: Aug 24, 2023 Threads: 5 Posts: 3082 | Quote: DRich Many people don't realize how militant Obama was. He was having multiple people assassinated weekly. Read up on his Tuesday weekly kill list meetings.
Foreign terrorists on foreign soil during the War on Terror. |
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| rxwine Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 217 Posts: 23159 | Quote: missedhervee Obama was liberal but he rode the wave which predated BLM and antifa, the riots etc. He was a slick talker, looked good in a suit, and people were fed up with Bush.
What Google AI says Quote: Kamala Harris has generally operated within the mainstream of the Democratic Party alongside Barack Obama, but she has diverged from him on specific foreign policy positions, the aggressiveness of financial settlements, and the progression of criminal justice approaches.
Because Harris's national political career largely took off after the Obama presidency, her policy differences are best understood through specific actions she took as California's Attorney General and later as a U.S. Senator.🏛️
Foreign Policy and Israel United Nations Vote: In January 2017, during her very first foreign policy vote as a U.S. Senator, Harris voted to criticize the outgoing Obama administration. She sided with a bipartisan group opposing Obama's decision to abstain from (and thus allow the passage of) a UN Security Council resolution condemning Israeli settlements in the West Bank.
The 2012 National Mortgage Settlement
Rejecting the Administration's Deal: As California's Attorney General in 2011, Harris initially broke away from the Obama administration's pressured framework for a nationwide settlement with major banks over foreclosure abuses.
Demanding More Relief: Believing the Obama administration’s proposed deal was too lenient on Wall Street, Harris walked away from the talks. Her gamble worked; she eventually secured $20 billion for California homeowners, which was vastly more than the $2 billion originally earmarked for the state under the initial administration-backed proposal.
Criminal Justice Evolution
Progression Beyond Obama-Era Positions:
During his presidency, Obama faced critique from the progressive left for a cautious approach to systemic police reform, though he became more vocal later in his second term. Harris initially mirrored this caution during her prosecutor years (e.g., declining to investigate certain police shootings in 2014–2015).
However, following the 2020 racial justice protests, Harris moved further left than the Obama-era baseline by aggressively championing the federal ban of cash-bail laws and strict federal tracking of racial bias in policing.
Marijuana Decriminalization: While serving as California's Attorney General, Harris opposed the legalization of recreational marijuana, aligning with the Obama administration’s federal stance at the time. However, Harris later shifted to favor full federal descheduling and decriminalization—a position more progressive than the enforcement-heavy approach of the early Obama years "Trumpsplain (def.) explaining absolute nonsense said by TRUMP. |
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| missedhervee Member since: Apr 23, 2021 Threads: 171 Posts: 5792 | AI overview:
"Barack Obama successfully capitalized on a deeply polarized electorate and widespread exhaustion with the George W. Bush administration's foreign and domestic policies. His polished communication style and focus on hope and change propelled him to victory at a time when the modern progressive and protest movements, such as Black Lives Matter and antifa, had not yet emerged on the national stage." |