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April 12th, 2024 at 4:42:40 PM permalink

SOOPOO

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Quote: rxwine
Bad idea.

NPR can cover topics of public concern that would not turn a profit, that the-for-profit companies won't bother with because it isn't sensational enough, or too boring to keep ratings up.

Same reason to have government funded universities. What company is going to research ideas and solutions that might lead to cures for a rare disease or discoveries that don't immediately have a bigger profit motive?

Good point. But why not put some safeguards in place so it is not the liberal leaning source it has turned into? The fact that ams is quick to jump to its defense is evidence enough it is a ridiculously biased source, not caring if the truth is bent, stories slanted, etc…

Can you possibly disagree with that?

April 12th, 2024 at 5:15:49 PM permalink
rxwine Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 189 Posts: 18770	Well, I'm the last one who disagrees with oversight. I don't mind that it can make the processes more cumbersome, but there's also the added cost. You believe in an invisible god, and dismiss people who say they are trans? Really?

April 12th, 2024 at 6:24:56 PM permalink

AZDuffman

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Quote: rxwine
Bad idea.

NPR can cover topics of public concern that would not turn a profit, that the-for-profit companies won't bother with because it isn't sensational enough, or too boring to keep ratings up.

Your argument sounds like the argument they made about cable niche channels back in the 90s. They said "well, if we do not force people to take them then nobody would subscribe. Bottom line is if ratings are not there nobody cares. Kill the public funding of it. Let the rich people who want it to carry on carry it on. Joan Kroc donated a boatload of money to them when she died. Set up an endowment, let the donations come, and quit using taxpayer funds. In this day of thousands of podcasts pretty much anything people care about will be covered.

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What company is going to research ideas and solutions that might lead to cures for a rare disease or discoveries that don't immediately have a bigger profit motive?

Bell Labs once did this. We could make it worth the while for the Googles and Apples of the world to step back to that function.

The President is a fink.

April 12th, 2024 at 7:04:07 PM permalink

Gandler

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I am pretty sure NPR does not get any Federal money. It is funded by donations, sponsorships, and local governments who use the content. It is really not that different than most other news companies. It is not really government related at all, it is closer to something like the AP or Reuters (who make/document wide ranging content for distribution,) than a government broadcast.

This may be accurate criticism of PBS (if you think government funded media programs are bad,) but not NPR.

April 12th, 2024 at 7:08:22 PM permalink
rxwine Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 189 Posts: 18770	A good portion of the population is already ignorant enough. They don't need to be told to wait until they're interested. But if you want to make sure elites control more things than they already do, then I see your point. You believe in an invisible god, and dismiss people who say they are trans? Really?

April 12th, 2024 at 7:22:13 PM permalink

rxwine

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Quote: Gandler
I am pretty sure NPR does not get any Federal money. It is funded by donations, sponsorships, and local governments who use the content. It is really not that different than most other news companies. It is not really government related at all, it is closer to something like the AP or Reuters (who make/document wide ranging content for distribution,) than a government broadcast.

This may be accurate criticism of PBS (if you think government funded media programs are bad,) but not NPR.

Probably what I deserve for paying attention to a Trump statement. It either makes no sense or he was talking about PBS.

You believe in an invisible god, and dismiss people who say they are trans? Really?

April 12th, 2024 at 7:24:52 PM permalink
rxwine Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 189 Posts: 18770	Apparently, NPR does get some Federal funding, but it is so small, it would literally make no difference to cut it off. You believe in an invisible god, and dismiss people who say they are trans? Really?

April 12th, 2024 at 7:50:57 PM permalink

kenarman

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Quote: Gandler
I am pretty sure NPR does not get any Federal money. It is funded by donations, sponsorships, and local governments who use the content. It is really not that different than most other news companies. It is not really government related at all, it is closer to something like the AP or Reuters (who make/document wide ranging content for distribution,) than a government broadcast.
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Do your research!

"In 2020, National Public Radio earned $275,424,738 in revenue. 23 NPR generates its revenue from a wide variety of sources. In 2017, NPR earned 38% of its revenue from individual contributions; 19% from corporate sponsorship and licensing; 10% from foundation donations; 10% from university licensing and donations; and 4% from federal, state, and local governments via member stations."

I would also consider those numbers somewhat suspect since that leaves the source of 19% of their revenue unaccounted for. The quote comes from NPR's own site, most other sources say that 10% of their revenue is directly and indirectly from governments of all levels.
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April 12th, 2024 at 8:37:08 PM permalink

Gandler

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Quote: kenarman

"In 2020, National Public Radio earned $275,424,738 in revenue. 23 NPR generates its revenue from a wide variety of sources. In 2017, NPR earned 38% of its revenue from individual contributions; 19% from corporate sponsorship and licensing; 10% from foundation donations; 10% from university licensing and donations; and 4% from federal, state, and local governments via member stations."

I would also consider those numbers somewhat suspect since that leaves the source of 19% of their revenue unaccounted for. The quote comes from NPR's own site, most other sources say that 10% of their revenue is directly and indirectly from governments of all levels.

4% from "Governments of all Levels" is pretty vague. That can mean exclusively all local govs stations. They certainly get some tax breaks for being a non-profit, and probably some random grants, so in a roundabout way they probably receive federal funds. But, saying they are Federally funded is highly misleading (actually it is straight false.)

April 13th, 2024 at 2:31:01 AM permalink
AZDuffman Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 135 Posts: 18220	Quote: rxwine Apparently, NPR does get some Federal funding, but it is so small, it would literally make no difference to cut it off. Then it should be cut off. Why not? Ends the debate about funding biased programs. The President is a fink.

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