Presidential Historians Survey

Quote: AZDuffman

His list of accomplishments is long. The thing he has as "bad" is that liberals cannot stand him. You mention it here. Pulling out of Afghanistan should have happened 10 years sooner.



Reagan inherited a far worse economy that Obama did, and he made it recover far faster and stronger. Obama, like FDR, prolonged the bad economy he inherited.

Trump took the virus super serious. Travel bans and closing the booming economy. Lefties cannot stand that he did not act like an idiot and scare everyone to death. He did not tell everyone to wear the useless masks. And he had to deal with a Democrat Party that wanted to use the virus to attack him instead of helping things.

Finally, no historian that is actually a serious historian would rank a POTUS less than 20 years out of office. Meaning we can only now see the results of Clinton, who was highly regarded but left the dotcom crash that set up the 2008 crash.

Clinton frequently ranks center of the list (as he does on this list). I don't know of anyone who says he is the greatest President of all time. He was okay. The far left does not like him because he was pretty centrist (on economic and welfare issues -by giving State's control- even to the right).

I think he was okay politically (and the ranking in the center is generally fair on political merit). I think he was terrible personally, being very corrupt, and sexually abusive. Like Trump I don't think he was a good person. Unlike Trump, Clinton has the benefit of being outwardly likable (which in some respects makes such people even more dangerous).

Which is why I simply do not understand the cultish obsession with Trump, he had terrible policies, is a terrible person, and is not even outwardly likable so people can't even say "well he seems nice"......

As for being out of office for 20 years, you keep saying that, but that is an arbitrary timeframe. His term concluded (and we have seen the aftermath of it).

At the end of the day he tried to steal an election and cause a rebellion while being a sitting President, that alone gets him near the bottom of any list (again he ranks above Presidents who actually did contribute to the Confederacy, so I am not saying he should be at the very bottom), even if all of his policies were 100% stellar (they were not), this fact should cause an automatic drop in points (by a large margin), and would be just cause to rank him in the bottom five.

Quote: OnceDear

Hates brown people.

In less than two years into the Trump administration, the official poverty rate fell to an all time low for every race and ethnic group.

The black poverty rate fell below 20% for the first time in history, and 1.2 million of them were lifted out of poverty. The largest reduction on record.

Real median income grew 7.9% for blacks, 7.1% for hispanics, and 10.6% for asians. An all time high.

Most important, 2.8 million children were lifted out of poverty, including over 1 million hispanic children.

It was Trump who reversed Obama’s policy on D.C. school vouchers, that allowed parents to afford a better education for their children, to hopefully escape the democrat designed endless poverty cycle that prevented them from leaving the plantation.

Lots of hate there, eh?

He accomplished all of that without any democrat support.

Quote: Tanko

In less than two years into the Trump administration, the official poverty rate fell to an all time low for every race and ethnic group.

The black poverty rate fell below 20% for the first time in history, and 1.2 million of them were lifted out of poverty. The largest reduction on record.

Real median income grew 7.9% for blacks, 7.1% for hispanics, and 10.6% for asians. An all time high.

Most important, 2.8 million children were lifted out of poverty, including over 1 million hispanic children.

It was Trump who reversed Obama’s policy on D.C. school vouchers, that allowed parents to afford a better education for their children, to hopefully escape the democrat designed endless poverty cycle that prevented them from leaving the plantation.

Lots of hate there, eh?

He accomplished all of that without any democrat support.

ROTFL
According to your logic Donald Sterling doesnt hate Brown people because he paid his Black players millions of dollars
regardless
Donald Sterling IS a racist
Donald Sterling is banned for life from the NBA