DeSantis: the real deal?

March 1st, 2023 at 11:37:20 AM permalink
Mission146
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Everyone has to take turns carrying the water from the creek.

If a person doesn't go down the creek with a bucket, then their belly growls.

Then they can go to those of us (privately) that have plenty of water since we have a good work ethic.

But not socially.


1.) Because that's always worked.

2.) Weird metaphor.

3.) Sometimes there isn't a creek to go to, what then?
"War is the remedy that our enemies have chosen..let us give them all they want." William T. Sherman
March 1st, 2023 at 11:38:53 AM permalink
DoubleGold
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Fine, I guess, but it would seem only Democrats are concerned with changing that at the Federal level. The very party that you would accuse of indoctrinating folks, which I agree is true, to a limited extent.

THEY DON'T TEACH THAT COLUMBUS DISCOVERED AMERICA IN PUBLIC SCHOOLS ANYMORE!!!

Those that would probably only do so on the defense, "That's what we have always taught," which seems a much more Evangelical/Conservative sort of general outlook on things.

Do you just really like typing? I can't help but get the impression you don't always read the posts you respond to.



I think we mostly agree.
March 1st, 2023 at 11:39:50 AM permalink
Mission146
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I think we mostly agree.


Sure, why not?
"War is the remedy that our enemies have chosen..let us give them all they want." William T. Sherman
March 1st, 2023 at 11:46:23 AM permalink
DoubleGold
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1.) Because that's always worked.

2.) Weird metaphor.

3.) Sometimes there isn't a creek to go to, what then?



Literally move close to a creek or collect rain water.


To become individually independent we're just spinning our wheels if we don't remove the central bank.

A person can work all their life, never miss a day, save the majority of their cash, and can't pay hospital bills.

It's not getting better.

It's getting worse.

We just debased another 30% in three years.
March 1st, 2023 at 1:22:03 PM permalink
SOOPOO
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It is childish
but
You refuse to acknowledge that Desantis is an anti vaxxer
Just as childish to put your head in the sand
Be an adult and admit you support an anti vaxxer for President!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


I do not accept that DeSantis is an anti vaxxer. I do accept that he did not want people to lose jobs because they weren’t vaxxed. I do accept that he didn’t want to use the power of law to force people to be vaxxed. DeSantis has publicly acknowledged that he has been vaccinated against COVID-19. I agree with him. I recommend the vaccines and all boosters to everyone I know. So are you saying I’m an anti vaxxer because I don’t want to force someone to be vaxxed to hold a job? Go to a sporting event?

He runs a state with lower real estate taxes than I pay. With no state income tax. With lower sales taxes than I pay. That people are leaving Democrat run states like NY and California by the tens of thousands every month. Yeah I’ll support him over Bidenflation/open borders/loan elimating/trillion dollar new bills/ Democrat IN A HEARTBEAT!

Remember, I’m extremely pro abortion rights. Obviously DeSantis not my guy on that issue. Unfortunately the only person who is for all of the things I’m for is me. And I’m not running in 2024.
March 1st, 2023 at 2:22:50 PM permalink
rxwine
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I do not accept that DeSantis is an anti vaxxer. I do accept that he did not want people to lose jobs because they weren’t vaxxed. I do accept that he didn’t want to use the power of law to force people to be vaxxed. DeSantis has publicly acknowledged that he has been vaccinated against COVID-19. I agree with him. I recommend the vaccines and all boosters to everyone I know. So are you saying I’m an anti vaxxer because I don’t want to force someone to be vaxxed to hold a job? Go to a sporting event?

He runs a state with lower real estate taxes than I pay. With no state income tax. With lower sales taxes than I pay. That people are leaving Democrat run states like NY and California by the tens of thousands every month. Yeah I’ll support him over Bidenflation/open borders/loan elimating/trillion dollar new bills/ Democrat IN A HEARTBEAT!

Remember, I’m extremely pro abortion rights. Obviously DeSantis not my guy on that issue. Unfortunately the only person who is for all of the things I’m for is me. And I’m not running in 2024.


Has Florida ever really been economically bad under anyone? We're a tourist state? If tourism is bad the governor would be bad. We've had a lot of Democrat governors prior to consecutive Republicans.

Gov. Rick Scott Florida 2015 - 2019
2011 - 2015
Republican
Gov. Charlie Crist Florida 2007 - 2011
Republican
Gov. Jeb Bush Florida 1999 - 2007
Republican
Gov. Kenneth Hood Mackay Florida 1998 - 1999
Democratic
Gov. Lawton Chiles Florida 1991 - 1998
Democratic
Gov. Robert Martinez Florida 1987 - 1991
Democratic, Republican
Gov. Daniel Robert Graham Florida 1979 - 1987
Democratic
Gov. Reubin O’Donovan Askew Florida 1971 - 1979
Democratic
Gov. Claude Roy Kirk Florida 1967 - 1971
Democratic, Republican
Gov. Haydon Burns Florida 1965 - 1967
Democratic
Gov. Cecil Farris Bryant Florida 1961 - 1965
Democratic
Gov. Thomas Leroy Collins Florida 1955 - 1961
Democratic
Gov. Charley Eugene Johns Florida 1953 - 1955
Democratic
Gov. Daniel Thomas McCarty Florida 1953 - 1953
Democratic
Gov. Fuller Warren Florida 1949 - 1953
Democratic
Gov. Millard Fillmore Caldwell Florida 1945 - 1949
Democratic
Gov. Spessard Lindsey Holland Florida 1941 - 1945
Democratic
Gov. Frederick Preston Cone Florida 1937 - 1941
Democratic
Gov. David Sholtz Florida 1933 - 1937
Democratic
Gov. Doyle Elam Carlton Florida 1929 - 1933
Democratic
Gov. John Wellborn Martin Florida 1925 - 1929
Democratic
Gov. Cary Augustus Hardee Florida 1921 - 1925
Democratic
Gov. Sidney Johnston Catts Florida 1917 - 1921
Democratic, Prohibition
Gov. Park Trammell Florida 1913 - 1917
Democratic
Gov. Albert Waller Gilchrist Florida 1909 - 1913
Democratic
Gov. Napoleon Bonaparte Broward Florida 1905 - 1909
Democratic
Gov. William Sherman Jennings Florida 1901 - 1905
Democratic
Gov. William Dunnington Bloxham Florida 1897 - 1901
1881 - 1885
Democratic
Gov. Henry Laurens Mitchell Florida 1893 - 1897
Democratic
Gov. Francis Philip Fleming Florida 1889 - 1893
Democratic
Gov. Edward Alysworth Perry Florida 1885 - 1889
Democratic
Gov. George Franklin Drew Florida 1877 - 1881
Democratic
Gov. Marcellus Lovejoy Stearns Florida 1874 - 1877
Republican
Gov. Ossian Bingley Hart Florida 1873 - 1874
Republican
Gov. Harrison Reed Florida 1868 - 1873
Republican
Gov. David Shelby Walker Florida 1865 - 1868
Democratic
Gov. William Marvin Florida 1865 - 1865
Provisional
Gov. Abraham Kurkindolle Allison Florida 1865 - 1865
Democratic
Gov. John Milton Florida 1861 - 1865
Democratic
Gov. Madison Starke Perry Florida 1857 - 1861
Democratic
Gov. James Emilius Broome Florida 1853 - 1857
Democratic
Gov. Thomas Brown Florida 1849 - 1853
Whig
Gov. William Dunn Moseley Florida 1845 - 1849
Democratic
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March 1st, 2023 at 2:34:23 PM permalink
rxwine
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And DeSantis did nothing to help business by spotlighting culture issues in Disney except make fewer customers for them.
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March 1st, 2023 at 2:50:10 PM permalink
terapined
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I do not accept that DeSantis is an anti vaxxer. I do accept that he did not want people to lose jobs because they weren’t vaxxed. I do accept that he didn’t want to use the power of law to force people to be vaxxed. DeSantis has publicly acknowledged that he has been vaccinated against COVID-19. I agree with him. I recommend the vaccines and all boosters to everyone I know. So are you saying I’m an anti vaxxer because I don’t want to force someone to be vaxxed to hold a job? Go to a sporting event?

He runs a state with lower real estate taxes than I pay. With no state income tax. With lower sales taxes than I pay. That people are leaving Democrat run states like NY and California by the tens of thousands every month. Yeah I’ll support him over Bidenflation/open borders/loan elimating/trillion dollar new bills/ Democrat IN A HEARTBEAT!

Remember, I’m extremely pro abortion rights. Obviously DeSantis not my guy on that issue. Unfortunately the only person who is for all of the things I’m for is me. And I’m not running in 2024.

WTF
????????????????????
Desantis did not create FL
FL has had many Dem Governors
Theses FL policies you like are legacy policies Desantis inherited FROM DEMS AND REPUBLICANS in the past
I have no doubt Desantis is an anti Vaxxer because he hired an anti vaxxer to be his surgeon general

From Wikipedia
On appointment, Ladapo critiqued the "senseless" fear-driven cult of vaccination — characterizing vaccines as one of the many equally preventative arms of pandemic management — and would repeal quarantine rules for schoolchildren exposed to COVID-19 as his first executive action.[12][14] The following month, Ladapo refused to wear a mask while meeting State Senator Tina Polsky, who was set to undergo radiation therapy;[20] he defended his actions on the ground that masking hindered effective communication.[21] The Senate confirmed Ladapo on February 23, 2022; during background checks, his former UCLA supervisor refused a positive recommendation and said that Ladapo's "hands-off" approach towards tackling COVID-19 had not only distressed colleagues but also violated the Hippocratic oath.[22][23][24]

In March 2022, Ladapo recommended that healthy children in Florida not be vaccinated against COVID-19; thus, Florida became the first state to contradict relevant guidelines by the CDC and the American Academy of Pediatrics.[25][26] Experts cited by Ladapo disagreed with his stance and accused him of cherry-picking their work.[27] In October 2022, Ladapo cited an anonymous non-peer-reviewed analysis — claiming high cases of cardiac-related deaths among men who took mRNA COVID-19 vaccines — to suggest that men aged 18 to 39 not be vaccinated.[28][6] Medical professionals rejected his analysis as methodologically flawed and unscientific; David Gorski noted that it was the first time in American history that a "state government weaponized bad science to spread anti-vaccine disinformation as official policy."[29][30] In January 2023, the Faculty Council of the University of Florida Health concluded upon an investigation that Ladapo's recommendation was based on "careless and contentious research practice" and might have violated the university policies on research integrity.[31]
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March 1st, 2023 at 3:00:35 PM permalink
DRich
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Remember, I’m extremely pro abortion rights. Obviously DeSantis not my guy on that issue. Unfortunately the only person who is for all of the things I’m for is me. And I’m not running in 2024.


You would get my vote.
At my age a Life In Prison sentence is not much of a deterrent.
March 1st, 2023 at 3:03:54 PM permalink
rxwine
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Add in all the retirees, who get checks from the feds, and pensions and then add tourism...well, Gov of Florida probably not the best bellwether of running the whole nation as economic power.
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