DeSantis: the real deal?

January 18th, 2023 at 6:06:21 PM permalink
SOOPOO
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Goldfarb and Lieberman analyzed 30 years of published research on school-based programs around the world, and their respective outcomes.

The results show that sex education, like any other subject, is most effective when it builds – creating an early foundation and advancing with developmentally appropriate content and teaching.

Children as young as preschool age not only comprehend, but can openly discuss subjects as varied as gender diversity, gender nonconformity and gender-based oppression, making it the ideal time to begin creating a foundation for lifelong sexual health.

“Waiting until eighth grade algebra to first introduce the subject of math would be absurd. The same is true for sex education,” says Goldfarb.“Basic foundational concepts such as personal boundaries, different family structures, healthy friendships, treating others with respect, and social-emotional skills need to be introduced early in elementary school. These become the building blocks for more sophisticated discussions in later grades.”


I can’t address Terapined and ams’s rants. Not worth it. But your point I can address. I have no problem with YOU discussing homosexuality and furry and queer and transgender topics with YOUR 6 year old. Go for it. I would be very comfortable with a law leaving those discussions out of the kindergarten classrooms. If you’ve read my posts over the years, I’d prefer those decisions to be made on the local level, as there are certainly differences of philosophies from rural Iowa to urban San Francisco.

I think it has been mentioned, maybe not in this thread, but DeSantis is trying to turn New College into something it is certainly not today. New College was an extremely liberal private college when my friend/colleague went there in the 70’s. The appointment of 6 conservative trustees…. It will be interesting to see what happens there…
My liberal friend is not optimistic.
January 18th, 2023 at 8:33:22 PM permalink
rxwine
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Quote: rxwine
Bolding is mine.

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Goldfarb and Lieberman analyzed 30 years of published research on school-based programs around the world, and their respective outcomes.

The results show that sex education, like any other subject, is most effective when it builds – creating an early foundation and advancing with developmentally appropriate content and teaching.

Children as young as preschool age not only comprehend, but can openly discuss subjects as varied as gender diversity, gender nonconformity and gender-based oppression, making it the ideal time to begin creating a foundation for lifelong sexual health.

“Waiting until eighth grade algebra to first introduce the subject of math would be absurd. The same is true for sex education,” says Goldfarb.“Basic foundational concepts such as personal boundaries, different family structures, healthy friendships, treating others with respect, and social-emotional skills need to be introduced early in elementary school. These become the building blocks for more sophisticated discussions in later grades.”


I can’t address Terapined and ams’s rants. Not worth it. But your point I can address. I have no problem with YOU discussing homosexuality and furry and queer and transgender topics with YOUR 6 year old. Go for it. I would be very comfortable with a law leaving those discussions out of the kindergarten classrooms. If you’ve read my posts over the years, I’d prefer those decisions to be made on the local level, as there are certainly differences of philosophies from rural Iowa to urban San Francisco.

I think it has been mentioned, maybe not in this thread, but DeSantis is trying to turn New College into something it is certainly not today. New College was an extremely liberal private college when my friend/colleague went there in the 70’s. The appointment of 6 conservative trustees…. It will be interesting to see what happens there…
My liberal friend is not optimistic.


Okay, these were the first grade reading materials at one time. see below. Gender/sex/racial bias needs to be eliminated across the board. Dick and Jane and their parents were biased to a set of values just as much as anything else. I see this as no differently than racial or religious discrimination to eliminate those other representations of real people in society.

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Outside of the direct impact on educational practices, the Dick and Jane novels held profound weight in the social constructions of American society. Notably, the series centered on a starkly hegemonic family—white, suburban, nuclear, and middle-class—with little to no representation of other types of families or lifestyles (more on this later). Evidently, these readers attempted to do more than impart the ability to read; moreso, Dick and Jane books attempted to impart a set of prescribed and hegemonic values to a vast audience of school-aged American children.


Btw, hopefully they moved on from the Dick&Jane depictions.. Maybe they have kids with different skin colors, ethnicities, fat kids, kids in wheelchairs. Yup that's woke, and no reason not to have these others, gay and transgender and different kinds of parents. And if kids have questions about these people teachers shouldn't have to worry about their jobs trying to dance around an ambiguous law.

Furthermore, if there is a depiction of a Muslim, Jew or Hindu in their material, teachers answering any questions about these people shouldn't be accused of teaching a religion if they answer any questions any more than answering about gender or sexual identity.
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January 19th, 2023 at 4:22:08 AM permalink
ams288
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I can’t address Terapined and ams’s rants. Not worth it.


Yes, hard to address reality when all your posts in this thread have devolved into “WOKE = BAD!!!!!!!!”

There’s a new drinking game, take a shot every time SOOPOO says “woke.”
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January 19th, 2023 at 2:45:30 PM permalink
rquiredusername
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Of course
Trump was the worst President in the history of the country. Biden saved the country
The livid illogical absurd hate against Biden has turned the Republican party into the party of extremists
All are welcome as long as you hate Biden. Anti vaxxers welcome as long as you are against Biden.
Criminals in positions of power are ok because the criminal is against Biden. It's the Walker Oz effect. No matter how unqualified you are, simply being against Biden is all that counts.


What strain are you smoking?
January 24th, 2023 at 7:22:00 AM permalink
ams288
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The GOP remains a Donny Death Cult.

“A straight man will not go for kids.” - AZDuffman
January 24th, 2023 at 1:34:02 PM permalink
SOOPOO
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The GOP remains a Donny Death Cult.



If things weren’t bad enough already…. (Bills being manhandled by Bengals) you have to post this? I got SOME solace by going to Predictit which still has DeSantis as SLIGHT favorite over Trump for the nomination. The ONLY good thing that will happen with a Trump nomination is my bankroll betting against him in a national election….
January 25th, 2023 at 8:03:54 AM permalink
terapined
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I have yet to see a DeSantis sign
And I'm in FL
But
I did take this pic today in the RV park I'm staying at
Sometimes we live no particular way but our own - Grateful Dead "Eyes of the World"
January 27th, 2023 at 5:45:01 AM permalink
ams288
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What has Big Tits DeSantis actually done other than pull a bunch of culture war stunts to please the far-right?

I’m still baffled why people think he is the next big star. He doesn’t have *it* the way that Donny did. He can’t command a crowd. Listening to his whiny nasally voice for more than a couple minutes is akin to torture.
“A straight man will not go for kids.” - AZDuffman
January 27th, 2023 at 6:01:10 AM permalink
terapined
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What has Big Tits DeSantis actually done other than pull a bunch of culture war stunts to please the far-right?

I’m still baffled why people think he is the next big star. He doesn’t have *it* the way that Donny did. He can’t command a crowd. Listening to his whiny nasally voice for more than a couple minutes is akin to torture.

I agree
The guy has absolutely no personality
He's also dangerous for the country being anti vax
Sometimes we live no particular way but our own - Grateful Dead "Eyes of the World"
January 27th, 2023 at 8:58:03 AM permalink
terapined
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There is no doubt in my mind that more Americans would die under anti science DeSantis then a Dem President that is pro science
He is simply too dangerous for this country.
He has the dumbest Dr in the country as his surgeon General. The Dr is a horse paste nut

https://www.miamiherald.com/news/coronavirus/article271688562.html
Fact check: DeSantis says newest booster increases chances of COVID infection. Not true
Sometimes we live no particular way but our own - Grateful Dead "Eyes of the World"