ROEvember is Coming

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"Unafraid of death" seems to be a much different issue than killing a being that has no say in the process or how he/she/him/her/they/them feels about it.

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I am a lot less afraid of death now than I was years ago...yet I hope the child my DIL lost last year in mid-pregnancy did not suffer in any way.

Why does any male who is for abortion have a right to say anything about it when pro-abortion females say that males who are anti-abortion should not say anything? Should all males be silent on the issue either way?

Quote: rxwine

You didn't notice why I said they were unafraid. Antiabortion people like to claim it's awful to die. Seems like it might not be if these near death expeiences are in any way accurate.

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Who cares if anyone says anything about it. It's about whether you're deciding the issue for someone else.

Quote: RonC

I did see that; I have talked to several people who had "near death" experiences. I have no idea if they are real or if they are something the mind triggers in order to deal with the nearness to death. My wife was underwater and possibly knocked out for a bit and says that she saw a bright light and her dad who told her that it wasn't her time. Who an I to really know what happened.

It seems like being poked in the head with scissors might not be a painless thing. Or being sucked out of the womb with a vacuum.

Unless we feel it ourselves, how can you or I know?

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The person having the abortion is deciding the issue for someone else.

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Louisiana Republicans approve a bill that would add the two abortion pills to the state's list of controlled dangerous substances — making possession without a valid prescription a crime punishable by a fine, jail time or both.

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A Texas woman's lawsuit against local officials for charging her with murder after her self-induced abortion failed can move forward, according to a judges' ruling.

Starr County prosecutors earlier attempted to have the lawsuit dismissed, claiming they had absolute immunity because they were acting in their prosecutorial capacity when they brought murder charges against Lizelle Gonzalez, then 26, for taking pills to self-induce an abortion. Starr County is on the U.S.-Mexico border, around 150 miles southwest of Corpus Christi.

"What we have pled and what I think we will be able to show is that the prosecutors in this case, the district attorney and the assistant district attorney, were acting outside of their prosecutorial role" when they launched an investigation into Gonzalez' attempted abortion, said Cecilia Garza, an attorney for Gonzalez.

Gonzalez is seeking $1 million from Gocha Ramirez and Alexandria Barrera, the county's district attorney and assistant district attorney, and other local officials, after the pair filed an indictment against her in March of 2022.

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Petitions to put abortion rights on the ballot in Missouri and Arizona were officially approved this week, adding to a growing list of states where reproductive rights will be before voters in November.

Both ballot measures would amend their respective state's constitutions to enshrine the right to an abortion after the Supreme Court overturned the nationwide right to abortion in 2022, prompting state-by-state action on the issue.

In Missouri, supporters of abortion rights have been pushing to amend the state constitution to allow abortion in the state, where a near-total ban is currently in place. To qualify for the ballot, roughly 170,000 signatures from six out of eight congressional districts were required. On Tuesday, Secretary of State Jay Ashcroft certified that the petition had enough support to appear on the ballot.

The ballot measure will present Missouri voters with an opportunity to amend the constitution to establish a right to "make and carry out decisions" about reproductive health care, including abortion and contraceptives, while removing the state's current abortion restrictions. It would allow abortion to be restricted or banned after fetal viability is reached with exceptions related to the health of the patient.

Tori Schafer, the director for policy and campaigns at the ACLU of Missouri, said voting "yes" on the ballot measure will end the state's abortion restrictions and "restore our freedom and dignity to make decisions around pregnancy and abortion."