General Election 2024

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May 25th, 2024 at 11:01:10 AM permalink
Tanko
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Quote: rxwine
Libertarian hosting Trump speaking, but not Biden.


That's because Biden and the democrats are strongly pro-regulations and pro-big government, while Trump is strongly anti-regulations and anti-big government.

Trump eliminated most of Obama's regulations, and reduced regulatory costs per household by $11,000. Biden reimposed the regulations that Trump eliminated plus more of his own, adding $1.4 trillion in regulatory costs on the people.

"The added costs from these Biden-era final rules, which include both their current and expected future costs, amount to almost $10,000 per household. If regulatory costs continue to rise at the same rate as they did during the Obama administration, the total costs of Biden's rulemaking over an eight-year period would almost reach $60,000 per household."
May 25th, 2024 at 12:31:40 PM permalink
terapined
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Quote: Tanko
That's because Biden and the democrats are strongly pro-regulations and pro-big government, while Trump is strongly anti-regulations and anti-big government.

Trump is all about meddling in the marketplace with govt powers
I believe in capitalism and the free market
Trump believes in Tarriffs
Too me, it's socialism to protect businesses from competition
Build it better or go out of business
Sometimes we live no particular way but our own - Grateful Dead "Eyes of the World"
May 25th, 2024 at 1:24:11 PM permalink
missedhervee
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Quote: terapined
Build it better or go out of business


You don't have to build it "better:" building it of "comparable" quality would be enough, provided the profit margin is there.

Therein lies the rub.

How can American made goods compete against goods from third world countries where the workers make a pittance?

Even with a moderate tariff the cost to the third world country mfrs. is less than it would be to an American mfr.
May 25th, 2024 at 1:40:42 PM permalink
terapined
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Quote: missedhervee
You don't have to build it "better:" building it of "comparable" quality would be enough, provided the profit margin is there.

Therein lies the rub.

How can American made goods compete against goods from third world countries where the workers make a pittance?

Even with a moderate tariff the cost to the third country mfr. is less than it would be to an American mfr.

If somebody supplies me with a cheaper product
I should be able to buy it
I believe in a global free market
Sometimes we live no particular way but our own - Grateful Dead "Eyes of the World"
May 25th, 2024 at 5:43:46 PM permalink
missedhervee
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Sure, I like shopping at Wal-Mart too.

But America is in deep trouble.

We used to be a manufacturing powerhouse: not anymore: it's all "offshore."

Yeah, we "cleaned up" the polluters, but at the cost of the smokestack industries that formerly supported millions of unskilled Americans.

Now the products are made offshore, and today the third world generates the pollutants we once did and the winds bring it across the Pacific: to our shores: nothing has really changed.

The problems with this progressive program is that they simply didn't think things through; it sounded great to have the EPA clean up our skies and water but now millions cannot work in manufacturing and have to eke out a living in lousy jobs in our new "service economy."

Bring back manufacturing and heavy industry to the USA: it's what made us a world power.
May 25th, 2024 at 8:34:42 PM permalink
ams288
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I’m on a cruise so I’m not able to follow this as closely as I would if I were home, but WTF was Donny’s campaign thinking having him speak to the Libertarians?!

I solute all of them who booed the sh** out of him.

Usually his handlers go to great lengths to shield him from anything like this. Expect some ketchup to cover the walls tonight.
“A straight man will not go for kids.” - AZDuffman
May 26th, 2024 at 5:05:20 AM permalink
Tanko
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Quote: missedhervee
Bring back manufacturing and heavy industry to the USA: it's what made us a world power.


Never going to happen. Too expensive to manufacture in the US.

Government regulations, real estate costs, threat of lawsuits, potential environmental fines and clean-up costs, labor unions, taxes, SSI and Medical. On and on.

A company can get five people, each working forty hours a week in India, for the same cost as one person working a single day in the US.

Besides. Many formerly American companies are now foreign owned. Chrysler, GE Appliances, Motorola, others. Even GM partners with a Shanghai company.
May 26th, 2024 at 10:24:17 AM permalink
terapined
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Quote: Tanko


Besides. Many formerly American companies are now foreign owned. Chrysler, GE Appliances, Motorola, others. Even GM partners with a Shanghai company.

These former great companies are junk now
Chrysler, GE, Motorola, GM all dogs
No way I would invest in these companies
Crummy US management with no vision of the future ruined these companies
Lucky to get foreign money to prop up these dogs
Sometimes we live no particular way but our own - Grateful Dead "Eyes of the World"
May 27th, 2024 at 12:49:20 PM permalink
Tanko
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Quote: PotPie
.Trump, courting black voters, on Thursday at a rally invited rappers Sheff G and Sleepy Hallow up on to the stage with him

both have been charged with conspiracy to commit murder


Those two were on stage for less than one minute.

No mention by the left wing media, of the speeches given by Madeline Brame and Democrat former State Sen. Rubén Diaz.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tlFz1DQQ0eA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rv88KjpY-EE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MsfgeLM8n1c
May 27th, 2024 at 4:24:24 PM permalink
ams288
Member since: Apr 21, 2016
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Quote: Tanko
Those two were on stage for less than one minute.


“He let Charles Manson stand with him on stage, but only for less than a minute!”

It’s the MSM’s fault.
“A straight man will not go for kids.” - AZDuffman