General Election 2024

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January 18th, 2024 at 12:27:12 PM permalink
OnceDear
Member since: Nov 21, 2017
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Quote: ams288
Can you feel the tide turning against Donny?

His “total immunity” bullsh** is one of the worst ideas imaginable. Only idiots would support that.

This tweet will be getting a lot of coverage during the campaign, and rightly so:

“Events that ‘cross the line’ must fall under total immunity.”

That’s a losing campaign stance if ever I’ve seen one!
In a sane world, of course. But that world has been dashed.

I honestly think the cult leader can prevail. Even if he doesn't, his cult will not be diminished by any revelation of truth.There is no insane scenario off the table.


WW 3 if he wins: US Civil War 2 if he doesn't. I'm fast losing hope.
January 18th, 2024 at 1:14:41 PM permalink
RonC
Member since: Nov 7, 2012
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Quote: OnceDear
I honestly think the cult leader can prevail. Even if he doesn't, his cult will not be diminished by any revelation of truth. There is no insane scenario off the table.


He can prevail. He can just as easily lose. The vast majority of people who support him don't do crazy things. The insanity that did happen on 1/6 did not change the outcome of the election. Sure, there are a lot of people that don't get what really happened in November 2020--he lost due to a combination of the results of his time in office (actions, inactions, etc.) and promises from the other candidate to be "better". more transparent, etc. and not because of widespread "cheating"...with Biden also getting a healthy boost from a supportive press...

It seems like a lot of candidates don't think they lost. He did take it to an unacceptable level.

Quote: OnceDear
WW 3 if he wins: US Civil War 2 if he doesn't. I'm fast losing hope.


The country, as a whole, pretty much moved on. He has a strong constituency but the support for him as a candidate isn't going to make people go nuts for the most part should he win or lose. Most everyone will just keep on doing their thing.

If Biden had governed as he said he would in his campaign--as a moderate trying to unite the country working for everyone--this election would not even be close. Trump draws as much hate as he does support.

Lots of time left...the polls mean little.

I doubt the doom and gloom predictions will come true.
January 18th, 2024 at 1:29:49 PM permalink
ams288
Member since: Apr 21, 2016
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If a president has “total immunity,” Biden should have Donny killed ASAP. (Good riddance)

Then when someone tries to hold him accountable, he should have them killed as well, because he has total immunity!

(See how fu**ing stupid this total immunity thing is??)
“A straight man will not go for kids.” - AZDuffman
January 18th, 2024 at 2:09:03 PM permalink
RonC
Member since: Nov 7, 2012
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Quote: ams288
If a president has “total immunity,” Biden should have Donny killed ASAP)


Can a dead guy kill anyone?
January 18th, 2024 at 2:10:00 PM permalink
ams288
Member since: Apr 21, 2016
Threads: 29
Posts: 12551
Quote: RonC
Can a dead guy kill anyone?


I don’t get it.
“A straight man will not go for kids.” - AZDuffman
January 18th, 2024 at 2:45:46 PM permalink
DoubleGold
Member since: Jan 26, 2023
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Posts: 2506
Immunity is implied for a President.

Hence, executive orders.


A President doesn't have to go through the checks and balances like lawmakers and judges.

But can be impeached.


It's similar to Congress as a group being immune.

Or the Supreme Court as a group being immune.


Now, if we were a Democracy, then yes, he wouldn't have immunity.

Since we go by the Constitution.


Well, we used to before the coup de' etat of 2020 when the election was stolen.

The Constitution is obsolete now.

So he will not be allowed to pass go.


That is why no one is running against him on the left side.

It's not needed.

Elections are obsolete (except for one-party elections).


The new President will be someone like Xi of China (Gavin).



None of this is funny.

And you know what?

They'll go after their own.

The very same folks that voted for them in the past.
January 18th, 2024 at 4:34:39 PM permalink
DRich
Member since: Oct 24, 2012
Threads: 51
Posts: 4973
Quote: RonC
The vast majority of people who support him don't do crazy things.


I would consider anyone that supports him as doing a crazy thing.
At my age a Life In Prison sentence is not much of a detrrent.
January 18th, 2024 at 4:51:01 PM permalink
GenoDRPh
Member since: Aug 24, 2023
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Quote: RonC
He can prevail. He can just as easily lose. The vast majority of people who support him don't do crazy things. The insanity that did happen on 1/6 did not change the outcome of the election. Sure, there are a lot of people that don't get what really happened in November 2020--he lost due to a combination of the results of his time in office (actions, inactions, etc.) and promises from the other candidate to be "better". more transparent, etc. and not because of widespread "cheating"...with Biden also getting a healthy boost from a supportive press...

It seems like a lot of candidates don't think they lost. He did take it to an unacceptable level.



The country, as a whole, pretty much moved on. He has a strong constituency but the support for him as a candidate isn't going to make people go nuts for the most part should he win or lose. Most everyone will just keep on doing their thing.

If Biden had governed as he said he would in his campaign--as a moderate trying to unite the country working for everyone--this election would not even be close. Trump draws as much hate as he does support.

Lots of time left...the polls mean little.

I doubt the doom and gloom predictions will come true.


The majority of Trump voters don't do crazy things, but support those who do crazy things. They have opportunity to put their support behind the people who don[t do crazy things, but willingly choose to support the people who do crazy things.

In the past, candidates who don't think they lost complained and moaned and filed a lawsuit or two. It took Trump to try and destroy the foundations of our elections and illegally try and seize power. For that, he has the support of about 50 percent of the voters.

The country hasn't in the slightest moved on from Jan 6. There are still hundreds of prosecutions still pending, with hundreds of people still wanted by the Feds. GOP politicians are running on platforms specifically in support of the Jan 6 defendants and convicts. Those same politicians continue to say 2020 was rigged, or stolen or whatever. Indeed, Donnie's entire appeal with certain voters is his continued insistence of a rigged 2020 election. Jan 6 left and indelible impression on the US, and damaged the psyche of the Republican voter into delusion.

Joe is governing from the center-left. But the GOP doesn't want that. Instead of accepting moderate bipartisanship, they expect his acquiescence to their ideas in order to get anything done.

Gloom and doom predictions may not come true, but if Donnie or any other current GOP candidate gets elected, life will be quite bleak for many Americans who the GOP does not like.
January 18th, 2024 at 6:23:40 PM permalink
OnceDear
Member since: Nov 21, 2017
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Posts: 1512
Quote: DRich
I would consider anyone that supports him as doing a crazy thing.
And there are so many. This forum has its share of totally paid up cult followers who completely buy in to the Big Lie. Such ignorance or insanity should be in a low percentage minority, But the wannabe dictator ( He said so ) has them under his spell.
To those who see right through him, it's inconceivable that he would get so widely followed as to have any chance in 2024. I think those folk need to wake up to the fact that he really does have influence: That his bogus world is accepted and that the lunatics are going to take control of the asylum and are going to replace the staff with pre-josen psychopaths and sycophants. It really is all lined up to happen. It happened before Aug 19 1934.
January 18th, 2024 at 11:50:17 PM permalink
DoubleGold
Member since: Jan 26, 2023
Threads: 30
Posts: 2506
Here is one place or two where it will show up:


Historically, the elite think they're better than blacks.

So after JFK, they changed their strategy.


Their new strategy was to pretend they were for the blacks and use them in various political ways.

One way is/was, they flooded the streets with drugs and gave them guns so they'd kill each other.

Another way was to put them on the front line in wars.

The most recent way is DEI because it places them in positions of extreme friction.

It's different than the KKK strategy.




What protects blacks is the constitution.

What protects women is the constitution.

What protects the sick is the constitution.

What protects the President is the constitution.

What protects the individual is the constitution.




A Democracy is mob rule and they exist to divide and conquer.

If the constitution is considered obsolete, the folks mentioned above will be the first to be abused.

If the elite can abuse the President, they can abuse everyone and they will.

But a precedent must be set because the people still have the power (in theory).

The elite are only a small percentage of the USA (top 1% of the top 1% similar to the cotton plantation owners).


The second point is, the military.

They vowed to uphold the constitution.

That's a huge issue for the elite that want mob rule (Democracy).

So in theory, the military can prevent precedents (JAG for legal expertise), if the elite go against the constitution.

But citizens with guns, can be controlled by micro-drones.


The third point is, the currency (USD).

Our USD has been the world's reserve currency.

The main reason is because we have our unique constitution to protect the individual.

It's intimately connected to human rights.

If the constitution is already taken over, then why hold assets in dollars?



Further reading:

https://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/20418343/navid-keshavarz-nia-sidney-powell-michigan-affidavit.pdf