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Quote: Gandler

There is a huge difference. People say that Trump won the election legally. The Russian interference was how the Russian government manipulated social media (which was true by the way).

The difference is this time Trump insists that he won the election and that there was fraud in the ballot box.

Totally different scenarios.

You do realize that the Wisconsin Supreme Court has ruled that the drop boxes used for the election were illegal. How much other illegal voting was there that was not allowed to go to court because the democrats were hindering due process.

Quote: kenarman

You do realize that the Wisconsin Supreme Court has ruled that the drop boxes used for the election were illegal. How much other illegal voting was there that was not allowed to go to court because the democrats were hindering due process.

You mean the ruling this year (2022) that they stated does not apply to past elections?

https://wisconsinexaminer.com/2022/07/08/wisconsin-supreme-court-declares-absentee-ballot-drop-boxes-are-illegal/

Quote: Gandler

There is a huge difference. People say that Trump won the election legally. The Russian interference was how the Russian government manipulated social media (which was true by the way).

By that rationale you manipulated social media.

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The difference is this time Trump insists that he won the election and that there was fraud in the ballot box.

Totally different scenarios.

Yes, totally different.

The Russians accomplished nothing.

There was fraud in the election.

Quote: Gandler

You mean the ruling this year (2022) that they stated does not apply to past elections?

https://wisconsinexaminer.com/2022/07/08/wisconsin-supreme-court-declares-absentee-ballot-drop-boxes-are-illegal/

The point is that the boxes allowed for illegal ballot harvesting.

Quote: AZDuffman

The point is that the boxes allowed for illegal ballot harvesting.

Not the point because it was not "illegal voting" at the time like you guys claimed.... It was legal then.

Quote: AZDuffman

By that rationale you manipulated social media.



Yes, totally different.

The Russians accomplished nothing.

There was fraud in the election.

The Russians accomplished a lot, they helped elect a very pro-Russian President.

There is a big difference when governments manipulate social media, and pump out fake news stories . (This is all confirmed by the way, even by honest Republicans).

https://www.fbi.gov/wanted/cyber/russian-interference-in-2016-u-s-elections

The Russian government was pushing for Trump. That is without debate. We also know that Trump publicly requested that they hack opponent's servers.
What we do not know is what deal if any they had worked out behind the scenes.





Can you cite a government source about manipulation in the 2020 election? (You don't have to answer, we already know.....)

Of course Russians tried to influence our elections. Is there anyone out there that thinks the U.S. does not try to influence elections in other countries? It is the same thing.

Quote: Gandler

You mean the ruling this year (2022) that they stated does not apply to past elections?

https://wisconsinexaminer.com/2022/07/08/wisconsin-supreme-court-declares-absentee-ballot-drop-boxes-are-illegal/

LMAO

kenarman gets REALLY confused about American politics sometimes.

Quote: DRich

Of course Russians tried to influence our elections. Is there anyone out there that thinks the U.S. does not try to influence elections in other countries? It is the same thing.

Its not the same thing. A Dictatorship influencing a democracy, is more ominous than the reverse.

Quote: Gandler

Its not the same thing. A Dictatorship influencing a democracy, is more ominous than the reverse.

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