Should Trans People be allowed to use opposite sex bathrooms?

When I was growing up, it was the black power fist.

It likely originated during slavery times.

So they just changed the colors (or lack of color).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_power

I guess OG has made a good point, gun owners are obvious terrorists. He can no longer defend them.

Quote: rxwine

Wow! My thread started off wondering if Trans People should have their own bathrooms and delved into gun rights! Wow, what a twist of a thread! 🫠

Quote: odiousgambit

the media has just decided not to call the rainbow raised fist what it is

You can’t even describe what it is so why would you expect the media to?

Quote: Riverjordan

Wow! My thread started off wondering if Trans People should have their own bathrooms and delved into gun rights! Wow, what a twist of a thread! 🫠

well, it's convenient to have a Trans thread already going

very unconvincing input from RXwine

OK so I'll let you know what set me off. Somebody I know posted in Facebook the below symbol. He does belong to this union and I think they've given him some kind of lower-down leadership position. He, a father of 4, feels compelled to support union initiatives so he posts this. For reasons I don't want to go into, I prefer not to blast him for it. But I want to, so instead I'm taking it out on you [ie those here who disagree with me that this is basically like posting a swastika]

According to my interpretation of the Holy Bible:


A Rainbow is a symbol of God's covenant with man related to flooding (Great Deluge).

And Pride was the ultimate cause of angels falling from heaven.

So both Rainbow colors and Pride are to represent positions that are against the Holy Bible.


They could be considered Anti-Biblical, similar to Anti-Christ, even without a participating person knowing.


Pride is a condition where we prioritize our soul (self) higher than our human spirit (not-self).

Humility places the human spirit higher than the soul.

We can switch between the two at will using our conscious.

Here's an interesting and objective video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=onz8-1EnLyY

It's a question of whether to get the T (and everything after) out of LGBTQIAWXON+_(@#5 community.

I'd have to say I think it makes the most sense for them to cut loss, at this point. It honestly wouldn't even be a loss for the LGB folks, but rather, addition by subtraction.

The fact of the matter is that you'd have to be dealing with some serious Bible-thumping retards in some rural area before you'd find anyone who has a problem with people being gay, lesbian or bisexual. There are a couple of (mostly closed) questions around adoption, and a minority of the population who would still support banning gay marriage, but I think these issues are, largely, no longer seen as contentious. The church knows, and finally accepts, that they have lost. At least, publicly.

At the same time, you're going to want a unified front that Centrists can actually get behind and support if we have a Roe type situation and Obergefell gets overturned...even though I SERIOUSLY doubt that.

Unfortunately, while it's not widespread, the indoctrination of children in schools into accepting any form of gender is taking place. Is it indoctrination? It most certainly the Hell is. Also, kids simply don't have the capacity to fully understand these things when we're talking about pre-schoolers, elementary schoolers and shizz...they're just going to believe whatever they're told and it will take a lot to deprogram that. I should know; I used to be a Christian...but never hardcore, or anything. They were able to quite easily drive me away without even trying; all it took was for me to observe with open eyes.

With that, I can't believe I am saying this---but just because we should not teach religion in public schools does not mean that we should be teaching religion's opposite. We shouldn't be instilling a sense of loyalty in children to anyone except themselves.

We absolutely should NOT even entertain the idea of doing permanent surgery on children...at least...not until they are at least late high school age. It might not happen often, but if it happens once, then that is one too many times.

Who defines LGBTQIFHN3-=&+, anyway? Why were these alternative gender folks automatically lumped in with people who simply have alternative sexualities? Why should there be a perception that gay and bisexual people must automatically be aligned with the most extreme elements of the political left? How did transexuals and these supposed non-binary folks acquire so much power, in such little time, to usurp a group who had to band together...and get open-minded people on board...for forty years, just to make marriage the law of the land?

For social self-preservation and to become a community that is worthy of respect, rather than contempt, once again...it's time for LGB to drop the T and everything after. Granted, many transexuals aren't even on board with all of these things and it's mostly extremely young radical, 'Non-Binary,' Leftists calling the shots, but the time has come, in my opinion, for the gay community to move on and let the others figure it out for themselves.

Quote: Mission146

Here's an interesting and objective video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=onz8-1EnLyY

It's a question of whether to get the T (and everything after) out of LGBTQIAWXON+_(@#5 community.

I'd have to say I think it makes the most sense for them to cut loss, at this point. It honestly wouldn't even be a loss for the LGB folks, but rather, addition by subtraction.

The fact of the matter is that you'd have to be dealing with some serious Bible-thumping retards in some rural area before you'd find anyone who has a problem with people being gay, lesbian or bisexual. There are a couple of (mostly closed) questions around adoption, and a minority of the population who would still support banning gay marriage, but I think these issues are, largely, no longer seen as contentious. The church knows, and finally accepts, that they have lost. At least, publicly.

At the same time, you're going to want a unified front that Centrists can actually get behind and support if we have a Roe type situation and Obergefell gets overturned...even though I SERIOUSLY doubt that.

Unfortunately, while it's not widespread, the indoctrination of children in schools into accepting any form of gender is taking place. Is it indoctrination? It most certainly the Hell is. Also, kids simply don't have the capacity to fully understand these things when we're talking about pre-schoolers, elementary schoolers and shizz...they're just going to believe whatever they're told and it will take a lot to deprogram that. I should know; I used to be a Christian...but never hardcore, or anything. They were able to quite easily drive me away without even trying; all it took was for me to observe with open eyes.

With that, I can't believe I am saying this---but just because we should not teach religion in public schools does not mean that we should be teaching religion's opposite. We shouldn't be instilling a sense of loyalty in children to anyone except themselves.

We absolutely should NOT even entertain the idea of doing permanent surgery on children...at least...not until they are at least late high school age. It might not happen often, but if it happens once, then that is one too many times.

Who defines LGBTQIFHN3-=&+, anyway? Why were these alternative gender folks automatically lumped in with people who simply have alternative sexualities? Why should there be a perception that gay and bisexual people must automatically be aligned with the most extreme elements of the political left? How did transexuals and these supposed non-binary folks acquire so much power, in such little time, to usurp a group who had to band together...and get open-minded people on board...for forty years, just to make marriage the law of the land?

For social self-preservation and to become a community that is worthy of respect, rather than contempt, once again...it's time for LGB to drop the T and everything after. Granted, many transexuals aren't even on board with all of these things and it's mostly extremely young radical, 'Non-Binary,' Leftists calling the shots, but the time has come, in my opinion, for the gay community to move on and let the others figure it out for themselves.

People don't notice the conditioning they already are in. Like all the books in my elementary school pictured white kids Their home life in books was mommy and daddy. Have you ever seen all the "Walk away" videos of people leaving the Democrat Party. Talking about all the bad things and unacceptance. Lots of them. Of course it happens. But it's Propaganda.

Many groups have extremists and they get the most attention. They make the news. Of course you don't have to align with anyone. Women who were already benefitting from activists before them taking the blows for their benefit as "women libbers" received some of that benefit whether they walk away from the movement now which is unfamiliar to them.

Quote: rxwine

People don't notice the conditioning they already are in. Like all the books in my elementary school pictured white kids Their home life in books was mommy and daddy. Have you ever seen all the "Walk away" videos of people leaving the Democrat Party. Talking about all the bad things and unacceptance. Lots of them. Of course it happens. But it's Propaganda.

Many groups have extremists and they get the most attention. They make the news. Of course you don't have to align with anyone. Women who were already benefitting from activists before them taking the blows for their benefit as "women libbers" received some of that benefit whether they walk away from the movement now which is unfamiliar to them.

I don't see what your first paragraph has to do with me, specifically. I'm all for racial inclusivity in youth-age books and I'm not necessarily opposed, but only as it organically comes up, to explain to kids that some other kids might have two parents of the same gender. Where you lose me is when we talk about non-binary people requiring validation...from children!? Who in their right mind needs to have their gender identity validated by children? I can't even believe I have to ask that question. You could just teach children that they're supposed to treat all people politely, regardless of who they are.

I don't think parents should indoctrinate their kids to believe one thing or another, but if anyone is going to explain these different concepts to kids, then that is who it should be. I'm not suggesting whatsoever that a parent can't attempt to explain to a five-year old what a non-binary person allegedly is...I have no idea why that parent would...but they are certainly in their rights to do so. That kid might then go to school and discuss it with friends, who will then ask their parents about it...and all of that is fine.

Quote: odiousgambit

well, it's convenient to have a Trans thread already going

very unconvincing input from RXwine

OK so I'll let you know what set me off. Somebody I know posted in Facebook the below symbol. He does belong to this union and I think they've given him some kind of lower-down leadership position. He, a father of 4, feels compelled to support union initiatives so he posts this. For reasons I don't want to go into, I prefer not to blast him for it. But I want to, so instead I'm taking it out on you [ie those here who disagree with me that this is basically like posting a swastika]

Lol. I could always be pleasantly surprised and be wrong, but I doubt that was chosen by a vote among all union members.