Supreme Court strikes down Roe v. Wade?

July 8th, 2022 at 1:44:52 PM permalink
ams288
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Quote: SOOPOO
…..except when they rule in a manner that gets Dems upset…. then it becomes ok to apply pressure and threats…. It is the way of the Democrats whenever they lose….


Riiiight. The GOP never does anything like that… ;)
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July 8th, 2022 at 2:25:41 PM permalink
terapined
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Quote: SOOPOO
…..except when they rule in a manner that gets Dems upset…. then it becomes ok to apply pressure and threats…. It is the way of the Democrats whenever they lose….

Aren't you talking about Trump and Trumpers
I've never seen a President more involved in applying personal pressure making phone calls to change an election
Has any President come close to what Trump did????????
Not only Dem presidents but include the Whig party and any other party a President belonged to
I've never in my life seen a party so upset they lost, they attacked the capitol
THE ULTIMATE THREAT AND PRESSURE
Attack the United States congress itself
No Dem or Whig action comes close and that's a fact Trumpers can't deal with
Sometimes we live no particular way but our own - Grateful Dead "Eyes of the World"
July 8th, 2022 at 2:28:19 PM permalink
kenarman
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Quote: terapined
Aren't you talking about Trump and Trumpers
I've never seen a President more involved in applying personal pressure making phone calls to change an election
Has any President come close to what Trump did????????
Not only Dem presidents but include the Whig party and any other party a President belonged to
I've never in my life seen a party so upset they lost, they attacked the capitol
THE ULTIMATE THREAT AND PRESSURE
Attack the United States congress itself
No Dem or Whig action comes close and that's a fact Trumpers can't deal with


The judiciary gets more protection than the politicians as it should to preserve it's independence.
"but if you make yourselves sheep, the wolves will eat you." Benjamin Franklin
July 8th, 2022 at 2:35:31 PM permalink
terapined
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Quote: kenarman
The judiciary gets more protection than the politicians as it should to preserve it's independence.

Protection from somebody breaking the law
Absolutely
Protection from a constuionally protected right to protest
Absolutely not
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July 8th, 2022 at 3:47:53 PM permalink
rxwine
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Quote: terapined
Protection from somebody breaking the law
Absolutely
Protection from a constuionally protected right to protest
Absolutely not


If free speech is such an undue influence, then the court itself should stop pretending it's a harmless right of people professing different point of views. I doubt if they want to go down where that path leads.
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July 10th, 2022 at 8:03:34 AM permalink
Gandler
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Quote: SOOPOO
…..except when they rule in a manner that gets Dems upset…. then it becomes ok to apply pressure and threats…. It is the way of the Democrats whenever they lose….


Except that tactic was invented by conservatives. Look at the history of abortion in the U.S. , routine protests by conservatives going back decades, and not to public figures, to Doctors that work there, and patients who try to go, there are sites where they even publish names and addresses for harassment.

Go even further back when people were debating segregation, and the constant harassment African American families who were assigned to white schools experienced (in some cases so bad that the literal Army had to be brought to towns to provide escorts -especially when local governors refused to help or in some cases used State police to actively attempt to stop it-).

Or more recently when an insurrection was attempted, and the then President even attempted to assist with the hanging of the Vice President when he would refuse to not certify the election.

https://www.politico.com/news/2022/05/25/trump-expressed-support-hanging-pence-capitol-riot-jan-6-00035117

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/may/25/trump-hang-mike-pence-chant-jan-6

https://www.history.co.uk/this-day-in-history/25-september/nine-black-students-escorted-under-armed-guard-into-all-white

http://www.armyofgod.com/
(This is about as disturbing of an organization that you can find in America, featuring a writing titled, "In Defense of Others:
A Biblical Analysis and Apologetic on the Use of Force to Save Human Life", also they are one of the largest clinic bombers, total terrorist organization, possibly more dangerous than Al Queda). Warning, this is a very disturbing website where they gloat at the Doctors they have killed and praise the people incarnated for killing them. But, its worth viewing to know how the right views casual violence.


The point is, the right specialized in terror and harassment, and its comical to say only the Democrats engage or even that they are the largest problem (not by far -even if you view standing on the sidewalk outside of a restaurant as a problem-......_
July 10th, 2022 at 11:02:54 AM permalink
ams288
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Pete Buttigieg is really good at pwning Fox News with their gotcha questions.

https://twitter.com/cmclymer/status/1546138792930824199?s=21&t=VxbByJPwFTZezXW1hVGe5Q
“A straight man will not go for kids.” - AZDuffman
July 10th, 2022 at 11:05:26 AM permalink
RonC
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Quote: Gandler
Except that tactic was invented by conservatives. Look at the history of abortion in the U.S. , routine protests by conservatives going back decades, and not to public figures, to Doctors that work there, and patients who try to go, there are sites where they even publish names and addresses for harassment.

Go even further back when people were debating segregation, and the constant harassment African American families who were assigned to white schools experienced (in some cases so bad that the literal Army had to be brought to towns to provide escorts -especially when local governors refused to help or in some cases used State police to actively attempt to stop it-).

Or more recently when an insurrection was attempted, and the then President even attempted to assist with the hanging of the Vice President when he would refuse to not certify the election.

https://www.politico.com/news/2022/05/25/trump-expressed-support-hanging-pence-capitol-riot-jan-6-00035117

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/may/25/trump-hang-mike-pence-chant-jan-6

https://www.history.co.uk/this-day-in-history/25-september/nine-black-students-escorted-under-armed-guard-into-all-white

http://www.armyofgod.com/
(This is about as disturbing of an organization that you can find in America, featuring a writing titled, "In Defense of Others:
A Biblical Analysis and Apologetic on the Use of Force to Save Human Life", also they are one of the largest clinic bombers, total terrorist organization, possibly more dangerous than Al Queda). Warning, this is a very disturbing website where they gloat at the Doctors they have killed and praise the people incarnated for killing them. But, its worth viewing to know how the right views casual violence.


The point is, the right specialized in terror and harassment, and its comical to say only the Democrats engage or even that they are the largest problem (not by far -even if you view standing on the sidewalk outside of a restaurant as a problem-......_


Wasn’t the Ku Klux Klan guy from WV who became a Senator a…Democrat?

George Wallace? Democrat

Democrat hands are not clean either. Oh yeah…the parties changed. Not as much as Dems would like to think…a lot of the same people stayed Dems all their lives. One was a hero of our President!
July 10th, 2022 at 11:49:47 AM permalink
terapined
Member since: Aug 6, 2014
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Posts: 12501
Quote: RonC
Quote: Gandler
Except that tactic was invented by conservatives. Look at the history of abortion in the U.S. , routine protests by conservatives going back decades, and not to public figures, to Doctors that work there, and patients who try to go, there are sites where they even publish names and addresses for harassment.

Go even further back when people were debating segregation, and the constant harassment African American families who were assigned to white schools experienced (in some cases so bad that the literal Army had to be brought to towns to provide escorts -especially when local governors refused to help or in some cases used State police to actively attempt to stop it-).

Or more recently when an insurrection was attempted, and the then President even attempted to assist with the hanging of the Vice President when he would refuse to not certify the election.

https://www.politico.com/news/2022/05/25/trump-expressed-support-hanging-pence-capitol-riot-jan-6-00035117

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/may/25/trump-hang-mike-pence-chant-jan-6

https://www.history.co.uk/this-day-in-history/25-september/nine-black-students-escorted-under-armed-guard-into-all-white

http://www.armyofgod.com/
(This is about as disturbing of an organization that you can find in America, featuring a writing titled, "In Defense of Others:
A Biblical Analysis and Apologetic on the Use of Force to Save Human Life", also they are one of the largest clinic bombers, total terrorist organization, possibly more dangerous than Al Queda). Warning, this is a very disturbing website where they gloat at the Doctors they have killed and praise the people incarnated for killing them. But, its worth viewing to know how the right views casual violence.


The point is, the right specialized in terror and harassment, and its comical to say only the Democrats engage or even that they are the largest problem (not by far -even if you view standing on the sidewalk outside of a restaurant as a problem-......_


Wasn’t the Ku Klux Klan guy from WV who became a Senator a…Democrat?

George Wallace? Democrat

Democrat hands are not clean either. Oh yeah…the parties changed. Not as much as Dems would like to think…a lot of the same people stayed Dems all their lives. One was a hero of our President!

Yawn
The left hates racists regardless of their political history
There is only ONE major party that actually supports racists :-)
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July 10th, 2022 at 12:34:52 PM permalink
Gandler
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Threads: 30
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Quote: RonC
Quote: Gandler
Except that tactic was invented by conservatives. Look at the history of abortion in the U.S. , routine protests by conservatives going back decades, and not to public figures, to Doctors that work there, and patients who try to go, there are sites where they even publish names and addresses for harassment.

Go even further back when people were debating segregation, and the constant harassment African American families who were assigned to white schools experienced (in some cases so bad that the literal Army had to be brought to towns to provide escorts -especially when local governors refused to help or in some cases used State police to actively attempt to stop it-).

Or more recently when an insurrection was attempted, and the then President even attempted to assist with the hanging of the Vice President when he would refuse to not certify the election.

https://www.politico.com/news/2022/05/25/trump-expressed-support-hanging-pence-capitol-riot-jan-6-00035117

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/may/25/trump-hang-mike-pence-chant-jan-6

https://www.history.co.uk/this-day-in-history/25-september/nine-black-students-escorted-under-armed-guard-into-all-white

http://www.armyofgod.com/
(This is about as disturbing of an organization that you can find in America, featuring a writing titled, "In Defense of Others:
A Biblical Analysis and Apologetic on the Use of Force to Save Human Life", also they are one of the largest clinic bombers, total terrorist organization, possibly more dangerous than Al Queda). Warning, this is a very disturbing website where they gloat at the Doctors they have killed and praise the people incarnated for killing them. But, its worth viewing to know how the right views casual violence.


The point is, the right specialized in terror and harassment, and its comical to say only the Democrats engage or even that they are the largest problem (not by far -even if you view standing on the sidewalk outside of a restaurant as a problem-......_


Wasn’t the Ku Klux Klan guy from WV who became a Senator a…Democrat?

George Wallace? Democrat

Democrat hands are not clean either. Oh yeah…the parties changed. Not as much as Dems would like to think…a lot of the same people stayed Dems all their lives. One was a hero of our President!



Yes, lots of racist Democrats, that is why I said conservative not Republican. Because those Democrats would be conservative by modern standards (especially on social issues). The difference is, I am not blindly defending Democrat who are racist (even if many of them were many decades ago....). Whereas the right has no ability to critically analyze themselves or call out bad behavior.