Ukraine conflict

February 23rd, 2022 at 11:17:48 AM permalink
SOOPOO
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Quote: rxwine
Unless you want something worse for the US than Vietnam, of course, we're not sending in troops there unless it's under the NATO agreement. It's not a secret.


In general, it is a very high bar for me to want American troops to be fighting a foreign enemy when actual US soul is not being threatened. Not saying impossibly high, but very high. Why isn’t the Ykraine a NATO member before this crisis?
February 23rd, 2022 at 3:01:53 PM permalink
AZDuffman
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Quote: SOOPOO
Why isn’t the Ykraine a NATO member before this crisis?


Multiple reasons. It was never stable enough and to let them be members would have stretched NATO logistics Pro-Russia Belarus makes too big of a bulge in the lines.
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February 23rd, 2022 at 9:47:31 PM permalink
rxwine
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Putin may be going after the whole country.
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February 24th, 2022 at 3:57:09 AM permalink
Tanko
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Clintons ties with Russia

Democrat linked firm Fusion GPS took money from the Russian government while they created the phony dossier

Bill Clinton paid $500,000 by a Russian Bank, for a speech in Moscow.

Hillary approving the sale of one-fifth of US uranium reserves to a Russian firm

Clinton campaign Chairman's brother lobbied against sanctions against Russia's largest banks
February 24th, 2022 at 4:24:26 AM permalink
ams288
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Quote: Tanko
Clintons ties with Russia

Democrat linked firm Fusion GPS took money from the Russian government while they created the phony dossier

Bill Clinton paid $500,000 by a Russian Bank, for a speech in Moscow.

Hillary approving the sale of one-fifth of US uranium reserves to a Russian firm

Clinton campaign Chairman's brother lobbied against sanctions against Russia's largest banks


Cool.

Now do Donny.
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February 24th, 2022 at 4:45:18 AM permalink
odiousgambit
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Now we know. Putin isn't stopping till he grabs the entirety of Ukraine.
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February 24th, 2022 at 6:17:50 AM permalink
Tanko
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He is funding his war and military buildup, with oil and gas sales to the West.
February 24th, 2022 at 7:49:14 AM permalink
RonC
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Some protesters in Russia getting detained. Actors have been warned not to criticize the Mother Land.

China flying over Taiwan. They do that a lot…but just a little more provocative today.
February 24th, 2022 at 8:22:39 AM permalink
rxwine
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NATO can put a big thorn in Putin’s plan if they continually weaponize a resistance inside Ukraine if it comes to that.

It will be pretty grim for Ukrainians if they do that, however.
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February 24th, 2022 at 8:45:38 AM permalink
RonC
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The every day people they interview on the streets in Ukraine seemed to think this would not happen. I think most of us were convinced that it would happen for a while now. Did they not hear what we heard or have they heard the same long enough just to ignore it?