January 6 redux

Quote: RonC

Don't we have large groups upset about the police on rare occasions acting as "judge, jury, and executioner" (it upsets me, too, when it actually happens).

It sounds like you support that in the right circumstances.

The police need to control and arrest. Let the prosecutors sort out their work and go to court.

Quote: Mission146

Well, yeah, or you can just give them twenty minutes to get out of the Capitol, kill the ones who don't and there's nothing to charge the others with. The Constitution allows for peaceful public protest as part of the political process, so once you start breaking any laws, it should immediately be considered an act of treason.

What the country deserves is not to have to deal with this BS for a year because all of the people committing illegal acts under the guise of protest (the ones who dispersed when ordered aside) are dead.

Quote: Mission146

What? When the police are executing, "No-knock," warrants in the middle of the night? I'd say rightfully so. If you're committing treason, however, then the police should have the ability to act as judge, jury and executioner.

Quote: RonC

So you support killing Jesse Jackson, for example, if he sits on the steps of the Capitol protesting whatever he wants to protest that day?

Quote: RonC

No. The police have the right to protect themselves. No knock warrants should be rare. That still does not give them the right to execute suspects.

Quote: Mission146

Ten times the number of protesters who maintain, without evidence, that the election was stolen? Good, bring ten times the amount of protesters as well as ten times the amount of police and get the army involved to boot. They can keep coming, keep getting out of line and keep refusing to disperse until the pile of bodies grows large enough to be a sufficiently effective object lesson.

I mean, you've got people throwing around, "Sacred." If we don't do anything to remedy the problem when we are supposedly dealing with protecting something sacred, then when do we do something about the problem? Judging from the looting and riots that also occurred in several cities, it looks like never. We're just going to let people do that anytime they want to?

We're sitting here talking about whether those who committed illegal acts at the Capitol Building should be tried, no, they should be dead.

I mean, I tend to be big on freedoms, but even with that, I know it takes more than a loose social contract to maintain a society.

Quote: Mission146

Is he permitted to be on the steps of the Capitol Building and, if not, was he afforded reasonable opportunity to instead go to an area where he was permitted to be?

Throwing names of historical figures out doesn't do anything for me. Laws shouldn't care who you are. (Yes, I know he's still alive)

Quote: missedhervee

The Jan. 6th attack was focused on more than "just a building," it was focused on the occupants.

The crowd brought with them a freakin' GALLOWS for Christ's sake.

They targeted Pence and Pelosi in particular.

Were Congress not then in session preparing to cetify the election results then there would never have been an attack as we saw; no, they were after the heads / lives of our elected representatives.