Reopening fiasco?

July 19th, 2021 at 6:44:30 PM permalink
rxwine
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Biden Gets 66 Percent Approval From Americans in His Handling of Pandemic

https://www.newsweek.com/biden-gets-66-percent-approval-americans-his-handling-pandemic-poll-1610802

Trumps highest pandemic approval rating was 55%
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July 19th, 2021 at 6:53:59 PM permalink
SOOPOO
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Quote: AZDuffman
But if you are vaccinated why would your first thought be that you caught what you are vaccinated for?


Because, as I've told you DOZENS of times before, the vaccine is not 100% effective. But you knew that. You just felt like trolling the forum. I get that.
July 19th, 2021 at 7:06:50 PM permalink
SOOPOO
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Quote: AZDuffman
You cannot make this stuff up!



Thanks for that video. I hope the criminals, because that is what they are, are held to full account. They are paid to do a job and they are abrogating their responsibility. They are paid to vote on bills presented to them, not cry like babies if they don't like the bills. I hope their actions rise to the level of an actual crime, and that they are prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.

AZ pointing out that they are hypocrites is well, like pointing out that water is wet.....
July 19th, 2021 at 9:10:59 PM permalink
rxwine
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Quote: SOOPOO
Quote: AZDuffman
You cannot make this stuff up!



Thanks for that video. I hope the criminals, because that is what they are, are held to full account. They are paid to do a job and they are abrogating their responsibility. They are paid to vote on bills presented to them, not cry like babies if they don't like the bills. I hope their actions rise to the level of an actual crime, and that they are prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.

AZ pointing out that they are hypocrites is well, like pointing out that water is wet.....


Bet you don't know which laws they broke.

Quote:
Cruz said that there is “clear legal authority to handcuff and put in leg irons legislators” who break quorum. Although Cruz said that this authority is based in the Texas Constitution, his office didn’t explain how he interpreted the constitution in order to reach this conclusion.

The Texas House Rules states that absent lawmakers can “be sent for and arrested, wherever they may be found.” But, because absent lawmakers aren’t charged with a crime, it’s unclear how the use of the word “arrest” should be interpreted in this context. This is because no Texas court has reviewed how this provision is to be enforced. Thus, there is no legal clarity.
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July 20th, 2021 at 1:46:59 AM permalink
OnceDear
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Quote: kenarman
Your Prime Minister said today that 60% of the hospitalized in the UK have been vaccinated. The silver bullet appears to me made of shiny steel..
Thanks,
Not the PM. It was actually his chief scientific advisor and he retracted afterwards saying that the 60% was of unvaccinated. So 40% had had at least one jab. It was not broken down to what percentage had received both jabs, and long enough ago for it to be effective.

So. NO. it's not the silver bullet. It was never claimed to be.

The British Prime Minister is an ignorant fool. He's fairly eloquent, but he's a clown and only interested in himself. He is going contrary to much of the scientific expert advice he has received. His grossly flawed explanation for dropping restrictions now...

Quote: Stupid UK Prime Minister
‘We also know if we were to now delay this fourth step, for instance to September, or later, then we would be reopening as the weather gets colder and as the virus acquires a greater natural advantage and when schools are back.


Quite how it is better to give the virus a head start evades me. It will still 'acquire a greater natural advantage' in winter but will also have had two months to get a massive base of infected hosts.

I think what he's actually doing, but not explaining, is to experiment on the unvaccinated by letting the gentler Delta variant tear through them, getting us close to herd immunity. It is a dreadful plan and he accepts that it will cost lives. He doesn't care.

The vaccines are but one line of defence. It's ALL ABOUT THE R NUMBER
WITH RESTRICTIONS IN PLACE

Latest R range for England
1.2 to 1.4

Latest growth rate range for England
+4% to +7%

That was before we dropped ALL social distancing restrictions. BLOODY MADNESS.

ALL our graphs are going in the wrong direction, and our stupid government dropped restrictions.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-51768274

Still, there is one upside. We can be virtually guaranteed a deep fall in the worlds stock markets. A good shorting opportunity, mirroring March 2020.
July 20th, 2021 at 3:42:17 AM permalink
AZDuffman
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Quote: rxwine
Biden Gets 66 Percent Approval From Americans in His Handling of Pandemic

https://www.newsweek.com/biden-gets-66-percent-approval-americans-his-handling-pandemic-poll-1610802

Trumps highest pandemic approval rating was 55%


Newsweek? Not exactly an unbiased source.
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July 20th, 2021 at 3:44:38 AM permalink
AZDuffman
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Quote: SOOPOO
Because, as I've told you DOZENS of times before, the vaccine is not 100% effective. But you knew that. You just felt like trolling the forum. I get that.


As long as the vaxxers refuse to give the same consideration for the vax that they demand I give groups they defend they will have to answer about it.
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July 20th, 2021 at 5:45:56 AM permalink
Tanko
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New cases in NYC are up 204% over the past two weeks. Last week, they were up 65% over the previous two week period. Hospitalizations and deaths are also rising.

“On Wednesday morning, health department officials said 98.8% of the 8,163 people killed by COVID-19 in the city this year through June 15 had not been fully vaccinated. The officials also touted a Yale study that found vaccinations had prevented about 250,000 COVID-19 cases, 44,000 hospitalizations and 8,300 deaths in the city.”

“Nearly three-quarters of Black New Yorkers 18 to 44 have not been vaccinated, the highest rate among any racial group. Just over half of Hispanic or Latino New Yorkers in the same age range have yet to be vaccinated, followed by 47% of white and 17% of Asian residents, ages 18 to 44, according to city data."
July 20th, 2021 at 5:54:22 AM permalink
rxwine
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Quote: OnceDear


Quite how it is better to give the virus a head start evades me. It will still 'acquire a greater natural advantage' in winter but will also have had two months to get a massive base of infected hosts.


One factor to consider here, is as you go past the 50% mark of both vaccinated and infected combined, you should have a diminishing population from which the virus can surge. Hopefully any reinfections will be mild at least for the rest of this year.

It’s even possible this years flu variant has been knocked down as well. We might end up having a better than usual flu season.

Of course, I’m being optimistic.
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July 20th, 2021 at 6:04:15 AM permalink
AZDuffman
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Quote: Tanko


“Nearly three-quarters of Black New Yorkers 18 to 44 have not been vaccinated, the highest rate among any racial group. Just over half of Hispanic or Latino New Yorkers in the same age range have yet to be vaccinated, followed by 47% of white and 17% of Asian residents, ages 18 to 44, according to city data."


The pattern continues, liberal whites ran out to get the vax as fast as they could, remember the lines and waits? Everyone else is questioning the need.
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