Hydrogen Powered Cars available in California
April 15th, 2021 at 11:13:04 PM permalink | |
Pacomartin Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 1068 Posts: 12569 |
The refusal of Toyota to introduce a BEV in the United States has the faithful up in arms. Two years ago an executive stated “selling 1.5 million hybrid cars reduces carbon emissions by a third more than selling 28,000 EVs.” Toyota introduced the hydrogen powered automobile in 2015 and their policy up until this year is to use hybrid's as an intermittent vehicle until the hydrogen cars are ready. That way you are not tapping into the grid and requiring new plants. We wouldn't need batteries if we all switched to Mitsubushi Mirage powered by riding mower engines. The Mitsubishi Mirage is a subcompact hatchback and sedan. It has a 78 hp internal combustion engine and weighs 2000 lbs. It does 0 to 60 mph in 12 seconds. It has an MSRP From $14,295.
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April 16th, 2021 at 1:40:12 AM permalink | |
Pacomartin Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 1068 Posts: 12569 | Although hydrogen refueling is only available in California, Hawaii, and Canada the equipment is not so overwhelmingly huge that it can't be added to existing gasoline stations. The Toyota Mirai is now priced firmly within the range of the best selling Tesla models $37,990 Tesla Model 3 Standard Range Plus 50 kWh 263 max miles - 201 hp $46,990 Tesla Model 3 Long Range 78 kWh 353 max miles - 449 hp $55,990 Tesla Model 3 Performance 78 kWh 315 max miles - 480 hp $49,990 Tesla Model Y Long Range 75 kWh 326 max miles - 384 hp $60,990 Tesla Model Y Performance 75 kWh 303 max miles - 456 hp $49,500 Toyota Mirai hydrogen fuel cell 402 max miles - 182 hp In theory people could move up to Mirai and protect the environment without relying on future electric generation plants. But I think Tesla owners are interested in performance and incredible acceleration (which you don't have with a Mirai) far more than they care about the environment. That is just a smoke screen to justify to their friends. |
April 16th, 2021 at 7:03:45 AM permalink | |
JimRockford Member since: Sep 18, 2015 Threads: 2 Posts: 971 | Early 70s VW Beetle reborn, roughly. I do admire the simplicity, but modern safety and emission standards make true simplicity impossible. The mind hungers for that on which it feeds. |
April 16th, 2021 at 10:12:22 AM permalink | |
AZDuffman Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 135 Posts: 18220 | Doug DeMuro reviewed a previous generation one. It is the modern Yugo. A single-mom-mobile. A fleet small package delivery car. Also being produced to keep Mitsubishi factories going a few more years before that company ultimately collapses. The President is a fink. |
April 16th, 2021 at 8:19:53 PM permalink | |
Pacomartin Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 1068 Posts: 12569 | Tesla has suspended production of it's more expensive S and X models and plans to re-release them later this year. Sales of the less expensive models are doubling compared to last year. $37,990 Tesla Model 3 Standard Range Plus 50 kwh $46,990 Tesla Model 3 Long Range 78 kwh $55,990 Tesla Model 3 Performance 78 kwh $49,990 Tesla Model Y Long Range 75 kwh $60,990 Tesla Model Y Performance 75 kwh ---------------- $79,990 Tesla Model S Long Range 100 kwh $91,990 Tesla Model S Performance 100 kwh $79,990 Tesla Model X Long Range 100 kwh $99,990 Tesla Model X Performance 100 kwh Tesla does not give details of sales figures. For first quarter 2021 Model 3 & Y 180,338 produced, 182,780 delivered In comparison a 2021 Prius Prime (plug-in) has a base MSRP of $28,220. |
April 17th, 2021 at 8:10:43 AM permalink | |
DRich Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 51 Posts: 4971 |
I bought a new vehicle yesterday and it has the auto engine shutoff feature when you stop. Kind of annoying. At my age a Life In Prison sentence is not much of a detrrent. |
April 17th, 2021 at 8:13:19 AM permalink | |
AZDuffman Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 135 Posts: 18220 |
One manufacturer was experimenting with shutting off all but one cylinder to avoid that golf-cart feel. I was in a car had that once and could see why people hated it. But it does get your city numbers closer to highway. The President is a fink. |
April 17th, 2021 at 8:39:09 AM permalink | |
Gandler Member since: Aug 15, 2019 Threads: 27 Posts: 4256 |
If its a Ford there should be a button somewhere with an "A" and circle type thing that you can press that turns this off (engine stays running). Other brands probably have a similar button. This is what it should look like: |
April 17th, 2021 at 8:48:02 AM permalink | |
DRich Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 51 Posts: 4971 |
Yes, the one I bought is a Honda and it does have a button to disable the feature. The problem is that every time that you start the car the feature reverts back to on so every time you drive it you have to remember to turn it off. At my age a Life In Prison sentence is not much of a detrrent. |
April 17th, 2021 at 9:02:14 AM permalink | |
Gandler Member since: Aug 15, 2019 Threads: 27 Posts: 4256 |
Yeah, Ford is the same way, there is no way to have it off by default. At least not that I have found. |