Artificial Intelligence and Economic Future

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October 31st, 2020 at 7:04:11 AM permalink
Pacomartin
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Here's an interesting concept. The industrial revolution made our modern civilization possible by multiplying human muscle power a thousandfold. Will artifical intelligence have an equivalent effect on the human race by multiplying the limitations of the mind?

It was not until a 1996 match with IBM's Deep Blue that for the first time a reigning world champion had lost to a computer using regular time controls. However, Kasparov regrouped to win three and draw two of the remaining five games of the match, for a convincing victory.

In October 2015, in a match against Fan Hui, the original AlphaGo became the first computer Go program to beat a human professional Go player without handicap on a full-sized 19×19 board.

China is betting big on Artificial Intelligence, and seeks to surpass the United States by the year 2025.

In the masterplan backed by President Xi Jinping himself, China will invest an estimated $1.4 trillion over six years to 2025, calling on urban governments and private tech giants like Huawei Technologies Co. to lay fifth generation wireless networks, install cameras and sensors, and develop AI software that will underpin autonomous driving to automated factories and mass surveillance. https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/international/business/chinas-got-a-new-plan-to-overtake-the-u-s-in-tech/articleshow/76555253.cms?utm_source=contentofinterest&utm_medium=text&utm_campaign=cppst

October 31st, 2020 at 7:26:29 AM permalink
Fleastiff
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MASS SURVEILANCE being the one true goal, the rest window dressing.
Wealready kowtow to 'guidelines" derived from simple rules by simple peole; I doubt we have achance to evade rule by complex, deep-learning or10k pixel windows on the"real" world.
Very expensive pilots are in the cockpit solely because we can't blame a Golden Retriever but will we be able to blame ten thousand pixel displays and a trillion zillion transistors????
October 31st, 2020 at 7:46:17 AM permalink
terapined
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Quote: Pacomartin


In October 2015, in a match against Fan Hui, the original AlphaGo became the first computer Go program to beat a human professional Go player without handicap on a full-sized 19×19 board.


That was amazing
There are only so many moves in chess
Not the case with Go
The netflix documentary on this was fascinating
Go players learning new strategies from artificial intelligence
Sometimes we live no particular way but our own - Grateful Dead "Eyes of the World"
October 31st, 2020 at 8:26:35 AM permalink
Fleastiff
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Quote: terapined
Go players learning new strategies from artificial intelligence
Wht was that Isamov stiy whweretn man learned arithmetic froma calculator?
Most artfialintelligene mimics nature anyway. Ai learns it faster than weo,
Tb
November 2nd, 2020 at 12:54:16 PM permalink
Fleastiff
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Quote: terapined
new strategies from artificial intelligence
No reason why artificial intelligence shouldn.nt lead the way. NPhard ssometimes means well we have not olved it yet so it must be hard.
November 2nd, 2020 at 5:26:27 PM permalink
Pacomartin
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Quote: Fleastiff
What was that Isaac Asimov story where a man learned arithmetic from a calculator?


"The Feeling of Power" is first appeared in the February 1958 issue of If.

Quote: Fleastiff
Most artificial intelligence mimics nature anyway. AI learns it faster than we do.


Almost everything ever constructed by man mimics nature in some way.
March 16th, 2021 at 12:03:32 AM permalink
Evenbob
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This stuff is scary to me. Here's Google AI making calls
to businesses to make appointments and you cannot
tell that you're talking to a machine. This is what the future
looks like.

If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose.
March 16th, 2021 at 4:29:01 AM permalink
Mission146
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Has anyone here played Go?

I just read the Wikipedia page on Go and I think my strategy would be to immediately resign.

It's interesting in that luck is not a factor, but the game itself seems totally pointless.
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April 23rd, 2021 at 6:24:51 PM permalink
missedhervee
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Industrialization led to automation which has led to the loss of good paying factory jobs: cheaper to have robotic devices put stuff together.

Now America is based more on service than manufacturing.

How will AI impact the remaining jobs we have for workers?

What will it be like when machines / computers do pretty much everything for us, and there's little need for humans in the work force?

Assuming that corporations own the future AI's and reap the profit from AI labor, how will the average Joe make a living?
April 23rd, 2021 at 6:48:12 PM permalink
rxwine
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Quote: missedhervee
Industrialization led to automation which has led to the loss of good paying factory jobs: cheaper to have robotic devices put stuff together.

Now America is based more on service than manufacturing.

How will AI impact the remaining jobs we have for workers?

What will it be like when machines / computers do pretty much everything for us, and there's little need for humans in the work force?

Assuming that corporations own the future AI's and reap the profit from AI labor, how will the average Joe make a living?


Some believe the paradigm won't be broken and new jobs will appear even as AI takes over old jobs. Like you, I'm not so certain. Would an employer prefer a worker who is there everyday, doesn't complain, and never asks for a raise, or a human?

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