HDBaseT

I really think that this HDBaseT media standard has a lot of potential for future casinos. At first, I was thinking mobile devices like IPads would be the rage. But the more I think about $600 devices the more trouble I think you would have. If you permit people to bring their own Tablets, there is always a risk of tampering. If you give them out there is a risk of theft. There is always the everpresent risk of the wireless system crashing, especially from overuse or tampering.

With this new media standard, the viewscreen has no power of it's own, a single connection via ethernet cable, and the cables can be over 100 yards long which eases design issues. The device could be in the $70-$100 range. You would have little theft since it is of no particular value on it's own. Although it is capable of two way communication, it has no programmable elements, so you can't hack it. You could carry it around, ans plug it into different places in the casino without fear of electrocution (since it has about 5% of the current in a normal wall socket.

It eliminates the need for ticket printers and if you go to the toilet, you can take your device with you. You could sit in a public bar space, or go to a cubby hole. You can program in social functions and watch sports or a horse race. You could plug it in outside in veranda space interior to the casino.

I envision a much more inviting, and much more efficient space.

FYI: Your plain old fashioned phone line has a small electrical current, never over 4 watts. It is enough to ring a phone, but not enough to power a cordless phone or an answering machine. There are some standards with higher wattage for ethernet, which give it enough to power a conference phone or a speaker phone so they don't have to be plugged in elsewhere. HDBaseT is plans for 100 watts of power, which is enough to power a modern television screen. A 19" TV rarely uses more than 60 Watts of power, the equivalent of an old incandescent lightbulb. If a drunk patron sticks his key into to an ethernet hot wire using this standard, he may get a small shock, but he can't hurt himself. The viewscreens may have a rechargeable battery so they still operate for a short while if they are moved.

Beginning in May 2012, the latest Energy Star™ 5.1 specifications mandates that TVs may consume no more than 108W of power, regardless of screen size. As TVs continue to consume fewer watts, HDBaseT is staged to provide power to TVs of virtually any size.

I think that's a lot of current to run through twisted pair. I know that 4 of the wires are currently (forgive the pun) useless but the wires themselves are tiny and it's been my experience that Cat5e can get frayed easily meaning there will be shorts. I think all devices should be solar powered :)

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I think that's a lot of current to run through twisted pair. I know that 4 of the wires are currently (forgive the pun) useless but the wires themselves are tiny and it's been my experience that Cat5e can get frayed easily meaning there will be shorts. I think all devices should be solar powered :)

Category 5 cable uses 24 AWG conductors, which can safely carry 360 mA at 50 V according to the latest Telecommunications Industry Association ruling. The cable has eight conductors (only half of which are used for power) and therefore the absolute maximum power transmitted using direct current is 50 V × 0.360 A × 2 = 36 W. Considering the voltage drop after 100 mwould be reduced to 31.6 W.


Some types of devices with Powever over Ethernet include:
IP Security Cameras
Network routers
Network webcams
Network Intercom / Paging / Public address systems and hallway speaker amplifiers
VoIP phones
Wall clocks in rooms and hallways, with time set using Network Time Protocol
Wireless access points
Outdoor roof mounted radios with integrated antennas, 802.11 or 802.16 based wireless CPEs (customer premises equipment) used by wireless ISPs.
Industrial devices (sensors, controllers, meters etc.)
Access control and Help-points (intercoms, entry cards, keyless entry, etc.)
Lighting controllers
Remote Point of Sale (POS) kiosks
Physical Security devices and controllers


Category 6 cable uses 23 AWG conductors.

I am not sure how they intend to get 100 Watts of power. I would have to read the standard.

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Category 6 cable uses 23 AWG conductors.

I am not sure how they intend to get 100 Watts of power. I would have to read the standard.

They use all eight wires so four of the wires serve a dual purpose. The data signal is somehow carried within the power which I know is a technology already being accomplished in other LAN applications.

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They use all eight wires so four of the wires serve a dual purpose. The data signal is somehow carried within the power which I know is a technology already being accomplished in other LAN applications.

That makes sense. 24 AWG wire is less than 1/3 diameter of 14 AWG wire. If you have 4 wires to carry power, you should be able to get 100 Watts.

So eventually you will be able to install vanishing screens around your house that look like mirrors until you turn them on. You will have a central console that you can load DVD's and stream ultra high def movies, and just ethernet cables running through the house. You won't have to wire the house for power.


Once 70" nonintrusive ultra high definition tvs become common, you won't need special media rooms, as even a more formal room or a bedroom can function as a media room when the signal is off.

The first HDBaseT Receiver has just been put on the market for $3100 by Pioneer.

The first HDBaseT televisions are being produced by Aquavision. They have some motivation to keep the power requirements below 100 Watts in wet room environments.