Presidential Election 2020 Biden vs. Trump

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August 30th, 2020 at 2:10:10 PM permalink
Gandler
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Quote: ams288
This is *almost* as dumb as his straight man/pedophile comment.

Apparently he has never heard of QAnon.


Or Trump's own statements about illegals voting enmasse, mail-in-fraud, rigged elections....

We already have a conspiracy Alex Jones fan in the whitehouse.gov (President), we don't need to look any further.
August 30th, 2020 at 2:35:17 PM permalink
Evenbob
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Quote: AZDuffman
So, you are thinking he will do like Algore and Hillary did?


Of course! Hillary to this day
says Trump stole the election.
The last two times Dems lost
they refused to accept the
results. That's because they
were sure the fix was in and
it wasn't. Hillary was assured
she would win, they had it
fixed every way it could be
fixed.
If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose.
August 30th, 2020 at 2:51:51 PM permalink
AZDuffman
Member since: Oct 24, 2012
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Quote: Evenbob
Of course! Hillary to this day
says Trump stole the election.
The last two times Dems lost
they refused to accept the
results. That's because they
were sure the fix was in and
it wasn't. Hillary was assured
she would win, they had it
fixed every way it could be
fixed.


Didn't she also say Biden should not concede no matter what?

And the libs here wonder why we should worry what if Biden does not accept the results!
War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength
August 30th, 2020 at 2:57:26 PM permalink
AZDuffman
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Confessions of a voter fraud: I was a master at fixing mail-in ballots

But, but, no fraud has ever been found in mail-in ballots!!!!!!!!
War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength
August 30th, 2020 at 3:10:02 PM permalink
Gandler
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Quote: AZDuffman
Confessions of a voter fraud: I was a master at fixing mail-in ballots

But, but, no fraud has ever been found in mail-in ballots!!!!!!!!


So he is blowing the whistle in an anymous news story instead of contacting the postal inspectors or the FBI?


https://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/whitehouse.gov/files/docs/pacei-voterfraudcases.pdf

This has been posted before, but it was linked in your article. 1000 cases of voter fraud over 20 years over all elections? Do you realize how statistical nothing that is?

When I have more time it would be interesting to see how many of the 1000 were Republican versus Democrat. Also, this 1000 includes duplicate voting, voter intimidation, and many other things that have nothing to do with mail in ballots.... In fact (again I would need to spend time to actually look at it), but I am pretty sure at a quick glance a small minority are mail related. But, again even if 100% were mail related, 1000 cases over 20 years is nothing.....
August 30th, 2020 at 3:13:58 PM permalink
AZDuffman
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Quote: Gandler
Quote: AZDuffman
Confessions of a voter fraud: I was a master at fixing mail-in ballots

But, but, no fraud has ever been found in mail-in ballots!!!!!!!!


So he is blowing the whistle in an anymous news story instead of contacting the postal inspectors or the FBI?


https://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/whitehouse.gov/files/docs/pacei-voterfraudcases.pdf

This has been posted before, but it was linked in your article. 1000 cases of voter fraud over 20 years over all elections? Do you realize how statistical nothing that is?

When I have more time it would be interesting to see how many of the 1000 were Republican versus Democrat. Also, this 1000 includes duplicate voting, voter intimidation, and many other things that have nothing to do with mail in ballots.... In fact (again I would need to spend time to actually look at it), but I am pretty sure at a quick glance a small minority are mail related. But, again even if 100% were mail related, 1000 cases over 20 years is nothing.....


The point is that it shows how unsecure mail-in voting is.

As to "1000 cases" are you not aware that for every crime that is found out there are several that are not?

Why are you against election security? Other than to allow Democrat Vote Fraud I mean.
War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength
August 30th, 2020 at 3:26:10 PM permalink
kenarman
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Quote: Gandler
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2000_United_States_presidential_election_recount_in_Florida

I don’t remeber the number of counties offhand. I do know Flordia was very close.

I also know Gore won the popular vote. I also know Gore peacefully conceeded after the loss.

https://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/al-gore-concedes-presidential-election

“I accept the finality of the outcome, which will be ratified next Monday in the Electoral College. And tonight, for the sake of our unity as a people and the strength of our democracy, I offer my concession.”


I guarantee when Trump loses he will not be this gracious (and he has the Supreme Court on his side which could drag things out longer).


Did you not look at the date of the speech you are quoting. Dec 13 which is 5 friggin weeks after the election before he would accept the results.
"but if you make yourselves sheep, the wolves will eat you." Benjamin Franklin
August 30th, 2020 at 3:30:31 PM permalink
Gandler
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Quote: AZDuffman
Quote: Gandler
Quote: AZDuffman
Confessions of a voter fraud: I was a master at fixing mail-in ballots

But, but, no fraud has ever been found in mail-in ballots!!!!!!!!


So he is blowing the whistle in an anymous news story instead of contacting the postal inspectors or the FBI?


https://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/whitehouse.gov/files/docs/pacei-voterfraudcases.pdf

This has been posted before, but it was linked in your article. 1000 cases of voter fraud over 20 years over all elections? Do you realize how statistical nothing that is?

When I have more time it would be interesting to see how many of the 1000 were Republican versus Democrat. Also, this 1000 includes duplicate voting, voter intimidation, and many other things that have nothing to do with mail in ballots.... In fact (again I would need to spend time to actually look at it), but I am pretty sure at a quick glance a small minority are mail related. But, again even if 100% were mail related, 1000 cases over 20 years is nothing.....


The point is that it shows how unsecure mail-in voting is.

As to "1000 cases" are you not aware that for every crime that is found out there are several that are not?

Why are you against election security? Other than to allow Democrat Vote Fraud I mean.


I am not against election security, that is why I posted the report of people who got convicted.....

Even if its 3X, 3000 over 20 years, still nothing....

Anyway, I'd seriously be interested if somebody with the time were to break down the convictions many are Democrats or Republicans.... It would not surprise me if it was proportional to the amount of voters (slightly more Democrats, but pretty close to 50/50), but it also would not surprise me if Republicans held the majoirty.....

I am sure if 80% came out to be Republicans, it would be because "Democrats are better at getting away with it" ...... Or some nonsense about courts being more lenient to Democrats....
August 30th, 2020 at 3:35:47 PM permalink
AZDuffman
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Quote: Gandler


Anyway, I'd seriously be interested if somebody with the time were to break down the convictions many are Democrats or Republicans.... It would not surprise me if it was proportional to the amount of voters (slightly more Democrats, but pretty close to 50/50), but it also would not surprise me if Republicans held the majoirty.....

I am sure if 80% came out to be Republicans, it would be because "Democrats are better at getting away with it" ...... Or some nonsense about courts being more lenient to Democrats....


Anything I ever see on it seems to be a Democrat getting caught. Democrats are the ones always against new security measures. Democrats are always the ones fighting for things like ballot harvesting.
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August 30th, 2020 at 3:46:18 PM permalink
Gandler
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Quote: AZDuffman
Anything I ever see on it seems to be a Democrat getting caught. Democrats are the ones always against new security measures. Democrats are always the ones fighting for things like ballot harvesting.


Well you have to bear in mind Democrats are about 50% versus Republicans are about 42% (this is actually outdated, I think in 2020 there has been an uptake in Democrats and people leaving the Republicans, so I think its more like 10+ % difference) , so any study of convictions would have to scale per capita (meaning if convictions are 50/50 Republicans are committing crimes disproportionately higher).

https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2018/03/20/1-trends-in-party-affiliation-among-demographic-groups/