Vegas casinos WANT to delay reopening??

May 24th, 2020 at 9:13:19 PM permalink
Shrek
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Hey, I don't know if this is true, but I read that the Vegas casinos want to reopen after the 3-month mark. I heard that they want a 3-month delay because if they remain closed for 90 days, then their contracts with the culinary union are void.

I kept wondering why Vegas casinos weren't clamoring louder to reopen, and this would definitely explain why. I don't live in Vegas but do any of you Vegas locals out there know anything about this and if it's true??

I think the 3-month mark will be on June 18th, so we shall see if that is indeed the magic date!
May 25th, 2020 at 4:01:52 AM permalink
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Why is this post here and not on WoV?

Is it because Shrek is nuked at WoV?
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May 25th, 2020 at 4:12:59 AM permalink
AZDuffman
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Quote: Shrek
Hey, I don't know if this is true, but I read that the Vegas casinos want to reopen after the 3-month mark. I heard that they want a 3-month delay because if they remain closed for 90 days, then their contracts with the culinary union are void.

I kept wondering why Vegas casinos weren't clamoring louder to reopen, and this would definitely explain why. I don't live in Vegas but do any of you Vegas locals out there know anything about this and if it's true??

I think the 3-month mark will be on June 18th, so we shall see if that is indeed the magic date!


A new contract would just have to be negotiated as they would still have to recognize the unions.
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May 25th, 2020 at 6:37:14 AM permalink
SOOPOO
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A new contract would just have to be negotiated as they would still have to recognize the unions.


But sometimes a contract turns out to be more favorable to one side than the other. I have no knowledge that this is so, but if the casinos want an 'out', perhaps the 90 day closing thing gives it to them. And then they can negotiate a contract more favorable to them. It's all about who has the leverage.
May 25th, 2020 at 6:41:26 AM permalink
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Quote: SOOPOO
But sometimes a contract turns out to be more favorable to one side than the other. I have no knowledge that this is so, but if the casinos want an 'out', perhaps the 90 day closing thing gives it to them. And then they can negotiate a contract more favorable to them. It's all about who has the leverage.


First thing is "successorship." Meaning if I sold you Flamingo you would have to take the labor contract with it. I forget exactly but it requires a year or more of closure to wipe the slate. From what I remember from Collective Bargaining class is unless there is s specific "out" due to a shutdown then they just pick up where they left off. There is probably some kind of clause about how to call people back from a layoff. If I had to guess I would say in this day and age they use a phone app.
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May 25th, 2020 at 5:58:17 PM permalink
Shrek
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Quote: SOOPOO
But sometimes a contract turns out to be more favorable to one side than the other. I have no knowledge that this is so, but if the casinos want an 'out', perhaps the 90 day closing thing gives it to them. And then they can negotiate a contract more favorable to them. It's all about who has the leverage.

Yeah, that's exactly what I was thinking. Union members are probably desperate to get back to work, so I totally agree that it's all about leverage.

I don't know if the whole thing is true, but it would definitely explain why casinos have been eerily quiet this whole time. I believe the 90-day mark ends on June 15th, so June 16th will be the magic day.

We shall see!!
May 25th, 2020 at 6:59:18 PM permalink
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Yeah, that's exactly what I was thinking. Union members are probably desperate to get back to work, so I totally agree that it's all about leverage.

I don't know if the whole thing is true, but it would definitely explain why casinos have been eerily quiet this whole time. I believe the 90-day mark ends on June 15th, so June 16th will be the magic day.

We shall see!!
The black plague in Europe was surprisingly beneficial to the laborers that survived as labor was in big demand after almost half died. I imagine if that were true about holding out for the ninety days, those laid off are collecting UI and the 600 per wk. Those benefits may reduce, but those employees were probably staying home watching the castastrophe blow on through like the rest of us. That pay is somewhat similar to what most of them made while working.

The casinos to want do keep their best workers, now labor may be in the best position they have been in in quite a while? Seems like Amazon workers, meat plant workers etc. are all wanting hazard pay. Do you try to negotiate with your surgeon how much for opening your guts? Why beat down these people, it's not like they are all driving Beemers, and swimming in their large pools. It is labor that built those business, just as it was clever management. Should management take a reduction in salary for not anticipating this virus? I've tried for years to get them to put hand sanitizer in casinos.

I think Wynn and the others will probably get a very big bailout from the feds, especially if they can negotiate austerity for working people.
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May 25th, 2020 at 7:04:35 PM permalink
Shrek
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Do you try to negotiate with your surgeon how much for opening your guts?
This isn't surgery though. We're talking about casino workers, and it's well known that casino are cheap af.

Quote: petroglyph
Why beat down these people, it's not like they are all driving Beemers, and swimming in their large pools. It is labor that built those business, just as it was clever management. Should management take a reduction in salary for not anticipating this virus? I've tried for years to get them to put hand sanitizer in casinos.
Why beat them down? Because like I said, casinos are cheap af and want to pay people as little as possible.
May 25th, 2020 at 11:54:25 PM permalink
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Quote: petroglyph
The black plague in Europe was surprisingly beneficial to the laborers.


The Black Death first exploded in Europe between 1347 and 1351. The estimated number of deaths ranges from 75 million to 200 million, or between 30 percent and 50 percent of Europe's population.

It isn't comparable to a pandemic that has killed a tiny fraction of 1% of the population of the US.