Book banning

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April 30th, 2020 at 12:30:51 PM permalink
aceofspades
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April 30th, 2020 at 12:57:39 PM permalink
Gandler
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Quote: aceofspades


I don't agree, but I understand.

To be fair both are pretty adult books.

The Great Gatsby is all about alcohol fueled and chainsmoking while trying to stalk back his lost love.

Catch-22 is pretty adult as well.

I love both books (and read both in high school), but I can understand why the content may not be appropriate in some eyes. Even in High School I recall being surprised at the content of the books (like, "oh I am surprised they are letting us read this").




I have honestly never read The Things they carried, so I can't comment on that.

I have not read the Invisible Man in many years, I don't remember much standing out in that book, so I can't think of why it would be banned. I remember being bored reading it so it did not stick with me (I may have been too young to appreciate it, not saying it is bad). Maybe there were terms used that are not appropriate today since it was from the late 1800s? If that is the case, bad reason to ban a book.
April 30th, 2020 at 1:00:30 PM permalink
Fleastiff
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usual nonsense. Only pablum permitted.
April 30th, 2020 at 1:04:46 PM permalink
AZDuffman
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More PC run wild. 1984 style just make history disappear.
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April 30th, 2020 at 1:08:36 PM permalink
terapined
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Quote: aceofspades

AGAINST
I read Catch-22 as a kid
I think I read the MAD magazine parody of the movie 1st
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April 30th, 2020 at 2:37:41 PM permalink
SOOPOO
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Against 'banning' books, if that means a child will be punished in some way for possessing or reading the 'banned' book. But no library or school system should be forced to buy any particular book.
There are books that incite hatred of minorities. Some are pornographic. Some tout gambling strategies that are clearly fiction, but the book presents them as fact.
No problem if the duly elected or appointed authority chooses not to spend tax dollars on those.
April 30th, 2020 at 2:38:47 PM permalink
Shrek
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Quote: AZDuffman
More PC run wild. 1984 style just make history disappear.

Yep, and the scary part is that there are people in this country who are actually cheering this stuff every step of the way. 🙄
April 30th, 2020 at 2:52:55 PM permalink
Gandler
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Quote: AZDuffman
More PC run wild. 1984 style just make history disappear.


None of the books were on there for political reasons that I can tell.
It was because of vulgar language, drug/alcohol use, violence and sex.

Same reason you cannot show R rated movies in most classes without a parent signature....

Its not about making history disappear, its just an adult filter.

(Which I don't agree with by the way), but the reason why they are removed from required reason have to do with content not philosophy from what I can gather.
This is not some 1984 type move to hide or change history.....
April 30th, 2020 at 3:54:17 PM permalink
petroglyph
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https://www.anchoragepress.com/news/not-a-full-ban-mat-su-school-board-president-responds-to-controversy-over-book-removal/article_1d805e76-8724-11ea-863c-e7de6cf68215.html ""If I were to read these in a corporate environment, in an office environment, I would be dragged into EO," an equal opportunity complaint proceeding, Hart said. "The question is why this is acceptable in one environment and not another." Everyone is worried about being sued.



"The school board voted 5-2 to remove a list of five books — “The Things They Carried” by Tim O’Brien, “I Know Why the Caged Bird Sings” by Maya Angelou, “Catch-22” by Joseph Heller, “Invisible Man” by Ralph Ellison and “The Great Gatsby” by F. Scott Fitzgerald — from the elective English curriculum in MSBSD in an amendment to the reading list. The board also voted to remove the New York Times Learning Network as a tool used for teacher resource.

The action did not call for a full ban of the books. my bold

Bergey said that the school board will review one more reading list before the end of the year and reiterated that the books will remain in libraries around MSBSD, but that he felt the texts used in classrooms should be further vetted to prevent Equal Employment Opportunity complaints and possible litigation against staff teaching the controversial text to students." my bold

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/alaska-school-board-deems-great-gatsby-other-famous-books-controversial-n1194436

Alaska schools are shut down, hard to tell what is going on at students homes? Ak has the highest percentage of alcohol and child/spousal abuse in the nation.
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May 1st, 2020 at 1:34:29 AM permalink
Pacomartin
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I read Invisible Man when I was just turned 18. It is a very violent book.
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