Walmart Hospital
February 28th, 2020 at 1:14:09 PM permalink | |
AZDuffman Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 135 Posts: 18204 |
Doesn’t have to be flexible at all. I get my oil changed the price is right there. No reason medical can’t be different for the basics. Just so it is not mandated. Some docs could do an all you can eat version and others a discount airline charge for every extra model. Then let me shop. The President is a fink. |
February 28th, 2020 at 1:22:14 PM permalink | |
petroglyph Member since: Aug 3, 2014 Threads: 25 Posts: 6227 | Have you tried negotiating prices with your health care? I have several times asked for [and received] a discount for cash at dentists and chiropractors. Also got a better price for alternative care by paying in silver eagles. Along the Mexican border there are health care towns, filled with Canadians who come down for dental work all winter. The Mexican dentists take cash. They advertise in our local paper for prices on crowns, etc. About 1/4-1/3 what it costs in America. The last official act of any government is to loot the treasury. GW |
February 28th, 2020 at 3:03:03 PM permalink | |
Evenbob Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 146 Posts: 25011 |
Not the same thing. It's balanced by many factors and there's a formula that only a computer understands. I'm not kidding when I say I've asked everybody involved and none of them know how it works, exactly. If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose. |
February 28th, 2020 at 3:59:42 PM permalink | |
Gandler Member since: Aug 15, 2019 Threads: 27 Posts: 4256 |
Dentists and Chiropractors tend to be far better than MDs/DOs about transparent pricing.... I think because they depend less on insurance (far more cash patients).... Also (for the most part) procedures are more routine.... Some MDs won't even talk prices until they have your insurance card.... |
February 28th, 2020 at 8:14:37 PM permalink | |
Evenbob Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 146 Posts: 25011 |
No. They won't even talk about it then. Try and ask them a question about pricing and they won't have an answer. They're trained to be vague so you can never pin them down to a fixed price. They're biggest go to answer is 'ask your insurance company'. So I call them and they say that's the doctors field, ask them. I even tried to find out why my insurance co was charged a certain amount and nobody knew. If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose. |
February 29th, 2020 at 8:56:35 AM permalink | |
SOOPOO Member since: Feb 19, 2014 Threads: 22 Posts: 4171 |
I was the guy who did know what anesthesia cost my entire career. My partners could make a guess within 30-40% at best. The problem when someone would call me in advance of surgery and ask I would always tell them my number was approximate, as there is a 'start' component and a 'time' component, and of course time is only known exactly after the case. For types of cases that are almost always cash and never insurance, we did have an exact set fee, and I could give that to the patient. The harder part would be when a patient would ask me what we charge, and I'd tell them approximately, but then they would ask me if they had a co-pay or co-insurance or deductible...... there was no way I'd be able to know that; in theory the patient should already know that from their insurance contract.... yeah right.... As far as an office visit...... there are different prices for time spent, level of complexity, possible need for additional test (CXR, blood work, EKG, etc...) that cannot be determined when you make the appointment. |
February 29th, 2020 at 11:05:02 AM permalink | |
Evenbob Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 146 Posts: 25011 |
Exactly. This is why nobody will commit to a number, no one person knows the cost. There is a formula involved and all cases are unique. If you start asking you will just get referred to a person you've already asked. And when you get a final bill there is nobody who can or will explain it to you. If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose. |
February 29th, 2020 at 11:48:25 AM permalink | |
SOOPOO Member since: Feb 19, 2014 Threads: 22 Posts: 4171 |
At least for my practice, this is not true. I explained more bills than I can count to inquisitive patients. My billing service was easily able to also. As i said before, how much your insurance company decided to pay and what was your co-pay and what was your deductible was between you and your insurance company. But my bill.... I could easily explain it. My point is it is not a problem with the doctor sending a bill, its a problem with your contract with your insurance company. |
February 29th, 2020 at 12:17:29 PM permalink | |
Evenbob Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 146 Posts: 25011 |
Every doctor can explain HIS part of a bill, what they can't explain is the whole thing. You get the runaround at every turn. My doctor knows how much HE charges for a physical. What he can't explain is the amount my insurance co paid. And neither can the insurance co. If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose. |