The Coronavirus thread

In reference to the isolation of any virus.

If we cannot isolate a virus, does it really exist?

In other words, is it imaginary or real?

If a virus is imaginary, what is really (real) causing deaths?

Also, if we can't isolate a virus (prove it), how could anyone (sane) create a vaccine based upon that imaginary virus?



The following person has a masters in Biostastistics (see end of doc for degree proof).

The link at the bottom is about isolation explanation.

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FOIs reveal that health/science institutions around the world (211 and counting!) have no record of SARSCOV-2 isolation/purification, anywhere, ever
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The reason: without the crucial step of isolation/purification having been performed (from
many patients, followed by characterization, sequencing and controlled experiments),
there is no way to claim scientifically that the alleged “novel coronavirus” (blamed for
widespread death/disease/lockdown measures) actually exists.

Without this step having been performed and followed by characterization, sequencing
and controlled experiments, all claims of this alleged “virus” are nothing but wild
speculation backed only by fraudulent science, fraudulent tests and fraud-based
diagnoses.

The requests submitted by my colleague in NZ and I (and many of the other submitters)
have not been limited to records of isolation performed by the respective institution, or
limited to records authored by the respective institution, rather they were open to any
records describing “COVID-19 virus” (aka “SARS-COV-2”) isolation/purification performed
by anyone, ever, anywhere on the planet.
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https://odysee.com/@SixthSense-Truth-Search-Labs:0/fluoridefreepeel.ca-FOIs-reveal-that-healthscience-institutions-around-the-world-211-and-counting-have-no-record-of-SARS-:1

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Statement On Virus Isolation (SOVI)
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We are correct. The SARS-CoV2 virus does not exist.
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https://andrewkaufmanmd.com/sovi/

The very same people that claim a study has to be peer reviewed, cannot provide a virus isolation.

They cannot scientifically prove that SARS-COV-2 exists.

So "real" science, is based upon fake science.

A word for it could be "scam".

Quote: DoubleGold

The very same people that claim a study has to be peer reviewed, cannot provide a virus isolation.

They cannot scientifically prove that SARS-COV-2 exists.

So "real" science, is based upon fake science.

A word for it could be "scam".

Bolding is mine.

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Objectives: Following reports of patients with unexplained pneumonia at the end of December 2019 in Wuhan, China, the causative agent was identified as coronavirus (SARS-CoV-2), and the 2019 novel coronavirus disease was named COVID-19 by the World Health Organization. Putative patients with COVID-19 have been identified in South Korea, and attempts have been made to isolate the pathogen from these patients.

Methods: Upper and lower respiratory tract secretion samples from putative patients with COVID-19 were inoculated onto cells to isolate the virus. Full genome sequencing and electron microscopy were used to identify the virus.

Results: The virus replicated in Vero cells and cytopathic effects were observed. Full genome sequencing showed that the virus genome exhibited sequence homology of more than 99.9% with SARS-CoV-2 which was isolated from patients from other countries, for instance China. Sequence homology of SARS-CoV-2 with SARS-CoV, and MERS-CoV was 77.5% and 50%, respectively. Coronavirus-specific morphology was observed by electron microscopy in virus-infected Vero cells.

Conclusion: SARS-CoV-2 was isolated from putative patients with unexplained pneumonia and intermittent coughing and fever. The isolated virus was named BetaCoV/Korea/KCDC03/2020.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32149036/

Quote: rxwine

Bolding is mine.

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Objectives: Following reports of patients with unexplained pneumonia at the end of December 2019 in Wuhan, China, the causative agent was identified as coronavirus (SARS-CoV-2), and the 2019 novel coronavirus disease was named COVID-19 by the World Health Organization. Putative patients with COVID-19 have been identified in South Korea, and attempts have been made to isolate the pathogen from these patients.

Methods: Upper and lower respiratory tract secretion samples from putative patients with COVID-19 were inoculated onto cells to isolate the virus. Full genome sequencing and electron microscopy were used to identify the virus.

Results: The virus replicated in Vero cells and cytopathic effects were observed. Full genome sequencing showed that the virus genome exhibited sequence homology of more than 99.9% with SARS-CoV-2 which was isolated from patients from other countries, for instance China. Sequence homology of SARS-CoV-2 with SARS-CoV, and MERS-CoV was 77.5% and 50%, respectively. Coronavirus-specific morphology was observed by electron microscopy in virus-infected Vero cells.

Conclusion: SARS-CoV-2 was isolated from putative patients with unexplained pneumonia and intermittent coughing and fever. The isolated virus was named BetaCoV/Korea/KCDC03/2020.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32149036/

Has to be from a human because we are not monkeys.

From your reference and the following reference is a Wiki reference:


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"The virus replicated in Vero cells..."

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The 'Vero' lineage was isolated from kidney epithelial cells extracted from an African green monkey (Chlorocebus sp.; formerly called Cercopithecus aethiops, this group of monkeys has been split into several different species).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vero_cell

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Here is the author's reply (of the above isolation paper) with the Vera cell samples.

It's fake science.

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Would a sane person mix a patient sample (containing various sources of genetic
material and never proven to contain any alleged “virus”) with transfected monkey
kidney cells, fetal bovine serum and toxic drugs, then claim that the resulting
concoction is “SARS-COV-2 isolate” and ship it off internationally for use in critical
research (including vaccine and test development)?

Because that’s the sort of fraudulent monkey business that’s being passed off as “virus
isolation” by research teams around the world.

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Also, the genome was assembled, not taken as a whole from a live infected human.

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"Full genome sequencing..."

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Quote: DoubleGold

Also, the genome was assembled, not taken as a whole from a live infected human.

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"Full genome sequencing..."

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Making up a standard of practice that they're not using. Okay. You still lose.

If you're a guy who insists that you must stand on the moon yourself or it doesn't exist. Fine. But that's not the standard normal people need.

Quote: rxwine

Making up a standard of practice that they're not using. Okay. You still lose.

It has to be assembled if they have a full genome because no one on Earth can provide an isolation.

In other words, it's implied.

If they had an isolate, then it'd be a matter of time to sequence the genome.

Quote: rxwine

If you're a guy who insists that you must stand on the moon yourself or it doesn't exist. Fine. But that's not the standard normal people need.

I am referring to the basic science.

It's fundamental.