The Coronavirus thread

Quote: Tanko

Arizonans voted for Biden knowing he intended to open the borders and flood the country with millions of illegals. They don't just put upward pressure on housing, goods and services. They also force those same strapped taxpayers to provide for their welfare, education and medical needs. Voters always get what they deserve. ...And we're only nine months in.

Brown people
The horror
Every problem Arizona has is due to brown people
Sarcasm
Actually kind of stunned by your outright hatred
Its such BS and lazy to blame the virus on immigrants when millions of dumb Trumpers are against the vaccine

Quote: terapined

Its such BS and lazy to blame the virus on immigrants when millions of dumb Trumpers are against the vaccine

The virus is not the fault of those attempting illegal entry into the US, but they should submit to vaccination as the legal visitors from foreign countries are required to do before visiting. Allowing them to enter the country, skip the part about vaccinations imposed on other visitors, is not part of the solution.

You continue to rail against "dumb Trumpers" without ever seeming to note the fact that there are other factions amongst our population who are avoiding the vaccine. Part of the problem is the lack of leadership by the Biden administration. Hollering at people and calling them names is not leadership. Using the science and leading people to the vaccine would be a better way to do it, but this group of people running the country are incapable of doing that job. You have to speak to people, not at them.

Quote: RonC

The virus is not the fault of those attempting illegal entry into the US, but they should submit to vaccination as the legal visitors from foreign countries are required to do before visiting. Allowing them to enter the country, skip the part about vaccinations imposed on other visitors, is not part of the solution.

You continue to rail against "dumb Trumpers" without ever seeming to note the fact that there are other factions amongst our population who are avoiding the vaccine. Part of the problem is the lack of leadership by the Biden administration. Hollering at people and calling them names is not leadership. Using the science and leading people to the vaccine would be a better way to do it, but this group of people running the country are incapable of doing that job. You have to speak to people, not at them.

Bottom line
The virus spreads due to people against vaccines and masks. Those dumb stupid people view the virus as a political issue. Most of these people still support Trump. I walked through an anti vaccine protest a few days ago.
This is real life, not the internet.
The biggest signs I saw were "Trump won" at a anti vaccine protest
This is why I use the term dumb Trumpers
I see them in real life and they are anti mask, anti vaccine and dumb enough to believe Trump won
Stupidity on display
Dumb Trumpers
IT A HEALTH ISSUE.
The US is under attack
The virus is the enemy
You either try to defeat the enemy of the US with vaccines and masks
Or
You can aid the enemy of the US by not wearing masks and not getting vaccinated

Quote: RonC

You continue to rail against "dumb Trumpers" without ever seeming to note the fact that there are other factions amongst our population who are avoiding the vaccine. Part of the problem is the lack of leadership by the Biden administration. Hollering at people and calling them names is not leadership. Using the science and leading people to the vaccine would be a better way to do it, but this group of people running the country are incapable of doing that job. You have to speak to people, not at them.

You keep repeating this nonsense.

At one of his recent cult rallies, Donny told his followers to get vaccinated and they booed him.

You really think there is some form of “leadership” that Joe Biden could show to convince these idiotic nutbags to get vaccinated when they won’t even listen to Donny? Puh-leez!

Quote: ams288

You keep repeating this nonsense.

At one of his recent cult rallies, Donny told his followers to get vaccinated and they booed him.

You really think there is some form of “leadership” that Joe Biden could show to convince these idiotic nutbags to get vaccinated when they won’t even listen to Donny? Puh-leez!

Whats the vaccination rate among people that believe Trump won
Any conservative want to touch that one ?
The anti vaccine protest I saw looked like a Trump Rally
hand written anti vaccine signs but professional high quality Trump won signs
Thats what I saw

Quote: Tanko

"Nearly 60 percent of recent COVID-19 hospitalizations occurred in the “fully vaccinated,”

The 60 percent refers specifically to senior citizens. This distinction matters.

Let's take that 60 percent figure at face value. Now consider that at least 80 percent of seniors qualify as fully vaccinated.

So out of 100 seniors, 80 have full vaccination and 20 don't.

For the sake of argument and simplicity, you have five seniors hospitalized for COVID: three fully vaccinated and two who aren't.

Three out of five gives you that 60 percent figure quoted above.

However, those three come from a pool of 80. The other two come from a pool of only 20.

That admittedly simple example illustrates that vaccination among seniors dramatically reduces the risk for hospitalization from COVID, even if in absolute numbers vaccinated seniors make up a majority of seniors hospitalized for COVID.

Quote: Altstates93

That admittedly simple example illustrates that vaccination among seniors dramatically reduces the risk for hospitalization from COVID.

We were told over and over by Joe BiDumb and the BiDumb Administration that if you were vaccinated you were fully protected. Not once, not a single time did they tell us that if you get vaccinated you still might get covid and you still might have to go to the hospital and you still might die. Should I play the video again of Beijing Joe telling us if it we're fully protected? What else are they not telling us about the vaccines. What are they not telling us about the long-term effects these vaccines will have on some people.

Quote: Evenbob

We were told over and over by Joe BiDumb and the BiDumb Administration that if you were vaccinated you were fully protected. Not once, not a single time did they tell us that if you get vaccinated you still might get covid and you still might have to go to the hospital and you still might die. Should I play the video again of Beijing Joe telling us if it we're fully protected? What else are they not telling us about the vaccines. What are they not telling us about the long-term effects these vaccines will have on some people.

In July they changed the masking recommendation for a good reason.

Quote:

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention updated its masking guidance Tuesday, recommending that everyone, whether they are vaccinated or not, wear a mask indoors in places where the coronavirus is spreading widely. The change was met with relief from experts who said masking up again is essential to combat the highly contagious delta variant

Delta variant. Ever hear of it?????

...up to that point, they had to started relaxing the masking requirements, but Delta ended up wrecking that plan as it became dominant here.

Quote: rxwine

In July they changed the masking recommendation for a good reason.

What does this have to do with the post you were answering about the vaccines. We were told over and over that get vaccinated and you're fully protected when they knew it wasn't true. You like your doctor? You can keep your doctor. Sound familiar?