The Gay Thread

Quote: GenoDRPh

It is becoming obvious that the current court will not protect us. The current court will not rest until we become an religious oligarchy. It is up to us as voters to take control of our own destiny and our own future.

Religion was mentioned in the ruling where? What did I miss?

Quote: GenoDRPh

Check out the ap on this article: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Child_marriage_in_the_United_States

Look at all the blue states that banned child marriage. Look at all the red states that haven't. And look at all the blue states that haven't as well. And then count all the red states that have banned child marriage. Hint: That number is zero. What are the waiting for?

Probably waiting for it to be some kind of problem. Or some kind of outcry for it, which we have not seen. Or looking at trends, didn't we pass a law guaranteeing marriage to any couple just a few years ago?

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SCOTUS didn't consider genital removal in this case. It only considered puberty blockers. Don't lecture us unless you know what the f*&k you are talking about.

Puberty blockers are the first step in the process.

Quote: GenoDRPh

Do you support political candidates, ballot referendums and public policies that allow that to happen, or are you willing to sacrifice their pursuit of happiness and ability to enjoy their lives at the altar of contrary candidates and issues more important to you?

It is one of many things I take into account when choosing a candidate to vote for. But of course not the only thing. My nephew, when finishing his ER doc residency in New Jersey, had to choose a hospital to work at. There are opportunities throughout the USA. His fiancé works remotely and could go anywhere with him. They chose…. Florida. Although clearly not the State high on the list of pro gay rights, they factored many things into their decision.

So the simple (and obvious) answer is, of course I would vote for candidates that align with me on issues I find more important to me.

They tell me that they experience no negatives, no discrimination in their Florida lives. I expect that to continue.

Quote: SOOPOO

It is one of many things I take into account when choosing a candidate to vote for. But of course not the only thing. My nephew, when finishing his ER doc residency in New Jersey, had to choose a hospital to work at. There are opportunities throughout the USA. His fiancé works remotely and could go anywhere with him. They chose…. Florida. Although clearly not the State high on the list of pro gay rights, they factored many things into their decision.

So the simple (and obvious) answer is, of course I would vote for candidates that align with me on issues I find more important to me.

They tell me that they experience no negatives, no discrimination in their Florida lives. I expect that to continue.

The way I look at it is that there will never be another candidate, or probably person, that aligns 100% behind my beliefs. Obviously, I will vote for the person that I believe best matches my beliefs. I would love to find political candidates that are fiscally conservative, pro gay rights, and pro abortion.

Quote: DRich

I would love to find political candidates that are fiscally conservative, pro gay rights, and pro abortion.

They're called moderate Republicans, and the neo-cons and MAGA have succeeded in hunting them all to extinction.

Quote: SOOPOO

It is one of many things I take into account when choosing a candidate to vote for. But of course not the only thing. My nephew, when finishing his ER doc residency in New Jersey, had to choose a hospital to work at. There are opportunities throughout the USA. His fiancé works remotely and could go anywhere with him. They chose…. Florida. Although clearly not the State high on the list of pro gay rights, they factored many things into their decision.

So the simple (and obvious) answer is, of course I would vote for candidates that align with me on issues I find more important to me.

They tell me that they experience no negatives, no discrimination in their Florida lives. I expect that to continue.

I think a difference here is I am willing to vote my rhetoric.

So where is the threshold for you to actual vote pro-gay rights? Problems obtaining housing? Employment discrimination? Access to government services? Access to healthcare? Discrimination in the consumer marketplace?

Quote: GenoDRPh

I think a difference here is I am willing to vote my rhetoric.

So where is the threshold for you to actual vote pro-gay rights? Problems obtaining housing? Employment discrimination? Access to government services? Access to healthcare? Discrimination in the consumer marketplace?

I would vote for all of the things you just mentioned. In a vacuum. But if that candidate was for reparations, for wasteful racist DEI funding, anti Israel, pro illegal alien, etc.. it would likely override the things you mention.

Sort of like what DRich just posted…. I’ll never find a candidate that agrees with me on everything. I believe that ‘gay rights’ are not the hot button issue it was a few decades ago. My nephew being comfortable in presumably one of the least gay friendly states shows to me why it is not a top priority for me. No one is taking Buttigieg’s kid away from him.

Quote: SOOPOO

I would vote for all of the things you just mentioned. In a vacuum. But if that candidate was for reparations, for wasteful racist DEI funding, anti Israel, pro illegal alien, etc.. it would likely override the things you mention.

Sort of like what DRich just posted…. I’ll never find a candidate that agrees with me on everything. I believe that ‘gay rights’ are not the hot button issue it was a few decades ago. My nephew being comfortable in presumably one of the least gay friendly states shows to me why it is not a top priority for me. No one is taking Buttigieg’s kid away from him.

You are blinded by white hot hate that you are willing to sacrifice equal rights for gays. That tells me you are for gay rights...only when you aren't. Tell your nephew that since for the most part you so hate man of the positions of the politicians who want to protect his equal right that you will always vote against them, even when they start coming for his rights, or Buttigieg's kids. Tell that to him, and see what he says back.

Quote: GenoDRPh

You are blinded by white hot hate that you are willing to sacrifice equal rights for gays. That tells me you are for gay rights...only when you aren't. Tell your nephew that since for the most part you so hate man of the positions of the politicians who want to protect his equal right that you will always vote against them, even when they start coming for his rights, or Buttigieg's kids. Tell that to him, and see what he says back.

Gays have equal rights. Because of this there is no need for a candidate to run on the issue. To the thread I have no idea what is so "gay unfriendly" about Florida. Does FL have special anti-gay laws or something?

Quote: AZDuffman

Gays have equal rights. Because of this there is no need for a candidate to run on the issue. To the thread I have no idea what is so "gay unfriendly" about Florida. Does FL have special anti-gay laws or something?

I don't know anyone who thinks Florida under DeSantis is a welcoming place to the LBGT community. or that he is working to make it anything but less so. So, yes, there is something to run on as far as the LBGT community. Just as he would ponce on making the state less abortion freindly than he already has.

Plenty reasons to have such issues to run on here.

Actually, it the same reason you would (I assume) try to vote out a liberal/progressive even if the laws were just as you liked them in your state.