The Gay Thread

December 25th, 2024 at 5:45:29 PM permalink
Evenbob
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Quote: SOOPOO
Because we all know a Conservative like Trump would never resort to a personal insult!

I need ams back. Countering EB is just TOO EASY!


Oh my God you didn't just do that. Right out of the Libby Playbook, blame Trump for everything. It's not you that you are the low-minded personal insult laden offender, it's Trump's fault. First response is always personal insult first and then blame Trump for everything. And you say you're not a Libby, yeah right. LOL
If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose.
December 25th, 2024 at 6:02:07 PM permalink
SOOPOO
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Quote: Evenbob
Oh my God you didn't just do that. Right out of the Libby Playbook, blame Trump for everything. It's not you that you are the low-minded personal insult laden offender, it's Trump's fault. First response is always personal insult first and then blame Trump for everything. And you say you're not a Libby, yeah right. LOL


Since this is The Gay Thread, I guess I have a little ‘Libby’ in me. I am in favor of gays being allowed to marry. I wasn’t in my younger years.
I’m definitely in favor of abortion rights. I don’t think I qualify as ‘Libby’ because I have such a low regard for Trump as a person. I am, in general, in favor of most of his policies.
I’m strongly against DEI. I am against the demonization of ‘the rich’. I am strongly pro-Israel. I am against loan forgiveness. I am against reparations. I abhor the BLM riots. I am strongly for the death penalty. I am pro ‘Big PHARMA’. I despise Bernie Sanders. But I also despise Matt Gaetz.

So is SOOPOO a liberal? Or a conservative?
December 25th, 2024 at 6:13:11 PM permalink
rxwine
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Quote: SOOPOO
SI am pro ‘Big PHARMA’.


Do you think Doctors are influenced by monetary reasons by pharmaceutical reps rather than the patient's own welfare or pocketbook. Or do you think that's an overhyped complaint?
"Trumpsplain (def.) explaining absolute nonsense said by TRUMP.
December 25th, 2024 at 6:28:55 PM permalink
DoubleGold
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Since this is the gay thread:

Trump: “President Obama will go down as perhaps the worst president in the history of the United States!”

Obama: “At least I will go down as a president.”

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December 25th, 2024 at 7:54:41 PM permalink
Evenbob
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Quote: SOOPOO
I am pro ‘Big PHARMA’.


Of course you are, it takes the doctor out of doctoring. A doctor doesn't have to think about anything, just grab his prescription pad and do what big Pharma tells him to do. I remember when they changed the numbers for your blood sugar. It magically went down and I asked my doctor at the time why. He said it was big Pharma that did it because they were developing all these new drugs for prediabetes and by dropping the magic numbers down they just increased their customer base by millions. He was disgusted and kept using the old numbers for years. Thanks Big Pharma!
If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose.
December 25th, 2024 at 8:24:58 PM permalink
SOOPOO
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Quote: rxwine
Do you think Doctors are influenced by monetary reasons by pharmaceutical reps rather than the patient's own welfare or pocketbook. Or do you think that's an overhyped complaint?


Certainly some are influenced inappropriately by PHARMA reps. I don’t think it’s as prevalent as the general public thinks. Of course whenever an egregious example is unearthed it is salacious front page news. My field, anesthesiology, was not a prime target for such things. The reps generally would go after the docs that write recurring prescriptions.

I think most of the time, there wasn’t ‘patient harm’ per se, but added costs to the system. I remember a drug being introduced, and after using it for a while, figured it was trivially ‘better’ than the drug it replaced. But maybe 10 times as expensive. Which do YOU want me to give you?
December 26th, 2024 at 2:12:57 AM permalink
Shrek
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Quote: SOOPOO
I need ams back

Omg, Soopoo totally lost me on this one. 🤦‍♂️
Why in the world would you want him and his horrible posts back?!?!?
Then again to be fair, he's already back. He just has to pretend that he's not himself lol 😂😂
December 26th, 2024 at 6:35:58 AM permalink
GenoDRPh
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Quote: SOOPOO
Certainly some are influenced inappropriately by PHARMA reps. I don’t think it’s as prevalent as the general public thinks. Of course whenever an egregious example is unearthed it is salacious front page news. My field, anesthesiology, was not a prime target for such things. The reps generally would go after the docs that write recurring prescriptions.

I think most of the time, there wasn’t ‘patient harm’ per se, but added costs to the system. I remember a drug being introduced, and after using it for a while, figured it was trivially ‘better’ than the drug it replaced. But maybe 10 times as expensive. Which do YOU want me to give you?


I will say, as a pharmacist these past 30 years, that there is minimal inappropriate influence, medical ethics and continuing education giving prescribers the straight scoop counteract it.
December 26th, 2024 at 8:42:17 AM permalink
SOOPOO
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Quote: GenoDRPh
I will say, as a pharmacist these past 30 years, that there is minimal inappropriate influence, medical ethics and continuing education giving prescribers the straight scoop counteract it.


I’m not saying you are wrong, but how can you actually tell?
December 26th, 2024 at 9:31:28 AM permalink
Evenbob
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Quote: GenoDRPh
I will say, as a pharmacist these past 30 years, that there is minimal inappropriate influence, medical ethics and continuing education giving prescribers the straight scoop counteract it.


Here's a pharmacist story. 40 years ago in 1985 I was diagnosed with Afib. My doctor tried to put me on coumadin, the rat poison. At the time I had an old school pharmacist that had been on the job since the 1950s and I asked him if he would take Coumadin if he had AFib. He said nope. Too dangerous. So instead my doctor put me on a whole aspirin a day and that's what I've been taking for 40 years.

Last January I had a bad accident where I had a deep cut on my side and I lost a lot of blood and when I got to the emergency room I passed out and they gave me three units of blood and then I had an operation the next day. The surgeon from the operation came into my room and asked me why I wasn't taking a blood thinner for my AFib. I told him my pharmacist story and he said well, that guy saved your life. He said you would have bled out at the scene before the ambulance even got there and you would have been Dead on Arrival at the hospital if I had been taking any of the blood thinners they have now. He said the aspirin probably caused me to bleed a little more than I should have but I lived through it.

These days I don't think a pharmacist is allowed to have even an opinion but this is 40 years ago. I have found pharmacists are far more knowledgeable about the drugs they deal with then doctors are. I always double check with a pharmacist whenever a doctor prescribes something because so often they don't know what they're doing.
If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose.