How long before YOU get tired of constant winning in gambling?

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January 18th, 2019 at 1:21:54 AM permalink
KNathan
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In the Twilight Zone, "A Nice Place To Visit," A real Scumbag of a man named Henry Francis Valentine (hecalls himself Rocky because his life has been rocky. Tired of waiting for the breaks to come to other people but never to him(Paraphrased from Rod Sterling's opening narration, ;) who killed a Pawn Shop Worker, and robbed said Pawn Shop, then shoots at a cop while attempting to run off after the Murder/Robbery. He is shot and killed by said Cop.


When he awakes, a man named Pip claims he is there as his guide meant to give him everything he wants. He demands him to give him his wallet. Pip mentions he doesn't want a wallet, he wants money. Rocky agrees and Pip gives him $700(Which was actually already big money in 1959 when this episode was released. In 2019, this would have been roughly $3,000, so a nice chunk of change, ;)


Pip takes him to a nice apartment. He relaxes until Pip gives him good food on a silver platter and Rocky suspiciously tells Pip to eat some food and Pip said he "Used to eat, but doesn't anymore it's been a really long time since he last ate," which understandably makes Rocky even more suspicious and he accuses Pip of poisoning the food and says something like,"You poison food and try to trick me into eating it. That was actually clever but I'm too clever to fall for it!" He shoots Pip multiple times and is shocked that bullets have no effect on him. Pip soon lets Rocky know that Rocky died from a bullet being shot into his head.

Rocky's apartment had booze in it and fancy suits. He also found a million dollars in his dresser(BIGGER money in 1959 than the $700 Pip gave him earlier, and in 2019, would have been roughly 5 million dollars.) He also had beautiful women who came to the apartment.He surmised he was in Heaven which technically Pip neither confirmed nor denied.


Rocky implied he wanted to Gamble, hey, he could be a WOV Poster, ;) so he and Pip go to the Casino. Rocky has beautiful women who literally hang on him. He chooses 14 red on Roulette and it wins! He cheers happily and implied he was on a huge winning streak. He goes to a slot machine and wins a hat full of quarters. He cheers.


Later he wants to know what he did to deserve Heaven and he and Pip go to The Hall Of Records to find his Records.

He is confused when he sees his records are his bad deeds, not good ones, I.e, at 6 he slaughtered a small dog, at 8 he organized street crime, at 9, he stole toys from a 5 and dime store. He is like,"What the hell?" But brushes it off because he surmises that God is okay with his bad deeds. Seriously? -.-


He is able to torment a police officer which brings him great delight.


Later on, he wins a Royal Flush(The best hand on Poker, ;) and the pretty Female Dealer says she has a Straight Flush(Second best hand in Poker, ;), meaning he won again. He sounded and looked miserably depressed. Instead of CHEERING, and SMILING, like you would expect someone who won the best Poker Hand ever to do, he behaves and looks like his child was murdered. It's clear that something was horribly wrong.


He also has a depressed demeanor when he won 33 black on Roulette . Compare this to how happy he was when he won on 14 Black earlier. He then wins a lot of quarters in a slot machine and jaded, leaves it on the ground. In a pool game, he wins a perfect game. He frustrated, breaks the cue stick. We once again get the feeling something is really wrong here.


Rocky confesses to Pip that he's been in Heaven for a month and was ready to snap and he was tired of the apartment, winning every time he gambled(Winning every time isn't gambling, that's Charity!" ) Bored with beautiful women. He wanted to go to the other place(Hell,) in 1959 you couldn't say Hell on TV, contrast that to the much more liberal 2019, ;)


Pip then tells him THIS was the other place while Rocky looks stunned and tries to leave the now locked apartment while Pip laughs heartily and maliciously. Rod Sterling's closing narration called Ricky "A scared, angry man who never got a break. Now he has everything he ever wanted and he's going to have to live with it for an eternity."


Question. How long would it have taken YOU to start getting tired of winning every time you gambled? It took Rocky a month to start snapping, how about you? Less, more?
January 18th, 2019 at 6:36:57 AM permalink
Wizard
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I think I would never get tired of it.
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January 18th, 2019 at 6:49:37 AM permalink
Fleastiff
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Win? What does that mean?

(I think I will go feed some sea mangoes to a Coconut Crab or something).
January 18th, 2019 at 7:16:54 AM permalink
DRich
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Quote: Wizard
I think I would never get tired of it.


I think you would when you are looking down at Jeff Bezos on the Forbes list. At that point why would you put in the time and effort when the wins become so insignificant.
At my age a Life In Prison sentence is not much of a detrrent.
January 18th, 2019 at 8:30:19 AM permalink
KNathan
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Quote: DRich
I think you would when you are looking down at Jeff Bezos on the Forbes list. At that point why would you put in the time and effort when the wins become so insignificant.


LMAO! :D Jeff Bezos is going through a 136 BILLION dollar divorce. He sure isn't "winning," right now. ;)
January 18th, 2019 at 8:57:11 AM permalink
AZDuffman
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Quote: DRich
I think you would when you are looking down at Jeff Bezos on the Forbes list. At that point why would you put in the time and effort when the wins become so insignificant.


It is a good point that half the point of winning is the rush you get. I still remember when I made it to 2nd place in a poker tourney and they guy in first wanted to chop but wanted to see how it played out. The guy was very good, the rush came when flat out said he was watching how I was betting when I was hanging by a thread.

Just walking in and winning would give all the thrill of using the ATM.
The President is a fink.
January 18th, 2019 at 12:57:03 PM permalink
KNathan
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Quote: AZDuffman
It is a good point that half the point of winning is the rush you get. I still remember when I made it to 2nd place in a poker tourney and they guy in first wanted to chop but wanted to see how it played out. The guy was very good, the rush came when flat out said he was watching how I was betting when I was hanging by a thread.

Just walking in and winning would give all the thrill of using the ATM.


Which is why Rocky in The Twilight Zone episode got tired of winning all the time after one month. He wanted to also lose sometimes and not know when he was going to lose. ;)
January 18th, 2019 at 3:32:51 PM permalink
Pacomartin
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In 1992, Wayne Barrett, a reporter for the Village Voice, wrote an epic biography of Donald Trump titled The Deals and the Downfall (HarperCollins).

Quote: The Deals and the Downfall (pp. 31-32)
"What are your goals?” he [Trump] was once asked in a television interview when he was at the peak of his success. “Goals?” he repeated, apparently taken aback by this foreign concept, unable to imagine a sense of purpose grander than a scorecard. “You keep winning and you win and you win,” he said in the midst of the crisis, reflecting on his better days. “You keep hitting and hitting. And then somehow it doesn’t mean as much as it used to.”

Donald liked to recall his favorite “Twilight Zone” episode, which featured a venal man who died in an accident, was offered any wish he wanted, and declared: “I want to win, win, win. Everything I want, I want to get. I want to get the most beautiful women. I want to get the beautiful this and that. I want to never lose again.” Then, as Donald recounted the story, the man was shown playing pool, winning every time. “Everything he did, he won,” said Donald, until the godlike figure who’d granted his wish came back to the man. “And the man said, ‘If this is Heaven, let me go to Hell.’ And the person said, ‘You are in Hell.'



January 18th, 2019 at 4:47:06 PM permalink
KNathan
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Quote: Pacomartin
In 1992, Wayne Barrett, a reporter for the Village Voice, wrote an epic biography of Donald Trump titled The Deals and the Downfall (HarperCollins).

Quote: The Deals and the Downfall (pp. 31-32)
"What are your goals?” he [Trump] was once asked in a television interview when he was at the peak of his success. “Goals?” he repeated, apparently taken aback by this foreign concept, unable to imagine a sense of purpose grander than a scorecard. “You keep winning and you win and you win,” he said in the midst of the crisis, reflecting on his better days. “You keep hitting and hitting. And then somehow it doesn’t mean as much as it used to.”

Donald liked to recall his favorite “Twilight Zone” episode, which featured a venal man who died in an accident, was offered any wish he wanted, and declared: “I want to win, win, win. Everything I want, I want to get. I want to get the most beautiful women. I want to get the beautiful this and that. I want to never lose again.” Then, as Donald recounted the story, the man was shown playing pool, winning every time. “Everything he did, he won,” said Donald, until the godlike figure who’d granted his wish came back to the man. “And the man said, ‘If this is Heaven, let me go to Hell.’ And the person said, ‘You are in Hell.'





Actually, Donald Trump mixed up two different, yet similar TZ episodes. They were both about wanting something so much and when they had too much of it, ended up miserable.

The episode with the man who kept playing pool and winning everytime was about a man who was good at pool but he kept being compared to a man who was the Champ at Pool. The only thing is WAS is the operative word here. The Champ was dead and so the Runner Up would never get a chance to beat him. He was driven mad with his desire to beat The Champ. One day, The Champ visited The Runner Up from the dead and The Runner Up was ranting about how people always said The Champ was better than him. The Runner Up I'll call him Charlie, wanted just ONE game to beat The Champ. Who I will call Mark. Mark and Charlie play pool and Mark warns him not to be so obsessed with beating him at Pool and start to enjoy other aspects of life, sound advice. But Charlie is so blinded by his obsession, he continues to want to beat Mark. He does beat Mark and Mark congratulates him as Charlie gloated. Mark became The Champ.

The twist ending. Mark became So good that he basically had no life outside of being a Pool Champ. In the afterlife after he died he was still being called to challenge Runner Ups who wanted to beat him at Pool even though it was clear he just wanted to be left alone to live his Afterlife in peace. He looked miserable. Mark warned him to stop obsessing over Pool so much and look at what not heeding Mark's sound advice got him. An afterlife of being called to play Pool. On the other hand, Mark was free to go fishing and live his Afterlife in peace.

The one where Rocky enjoys "Heaven," for one month before starting to snap and want out of it and go to "Hell," only to be told he was already in Hell is A Nice Place To Visit," which is what I described in detail in my OP. :)
January 18th, 2019 at 4:51:14 PM permalink
Fleastiff
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>Just walking in and winning would give all the thrill of using the ATM.
Quite a thrill there too, which is why casinos make them so available.
It's sort of like seeing someone get into an elevator and hit both 7 and 11 on his way to his floor; he just wants to finally get them once!
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