Bah! Humbug!

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December 23rd, 2018 at 2:19:47 AM permalink
Fleastiff
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December 23rd, 2018 at 5:44:31 AM permalink
FrGamble
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Quote: Fleastiff
Time for some seasonal eggnog, with plenty of nog, and then you can contemplate whether you really think that millions should suffer fire and brimstone because one man ate some fruit offered to his wife by a talking snake.


If you don't like that origin story you can still recognize the reality of the problem. Millions suffer fire and brimstone because we are cruel, greedy, violent, and awful to one another. However you believe it happened I believe sin does seperate us from one another and from God and that justice and truth will out and our only hope is God's mercy for salvation and for true conversion in our lives.
“It is with the smallest brushes that the artist paints the most exquisitely beautiful pictures.” (
December 23rd, 2018 at 7:00:56 AM permalink
aceofspades
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Quote: Evenbob
Made famous by Dicken's, Scrooge was saying
Christmas is a fraud. Which indeed it is.

Jesus wasn't born in Bethlehem, he wasn't
born in a stable or manger, there were no
three wisemen, no shining star, and not
only wasn't he born on Dec 25th, he wasn't
even born in winter. And his mom was most
certainly impregnated by his dad, not some
some god who had a split personality complex.

Even when all this can be proven forensically,
65% of Americans still believe the original
story is factually true. Amazing.

We need to have the Holiday Season, and get
Christmas out of it. It's just an old pagan holiday
they stole anyway, time to take it back. The tree,
the feast, singing of songs, the yule log, mistletoe,
gift giving, it was appropriated by the Church from
very old pagan rituals. Everything about Xmas is fake
and stolen. Time to bid it farewell.

Whenever I hear a nativity display was outlawed,
I give a little cheer. Keeping that myth alive does
nobody any good. Give to a charity if you want
to accomplish something.




Happy Saturnalia
December 23rd, 2018 at 7:02:14 AM permalink
aceofspades
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Quote: FrGamble
If you don't like that origin story you can still recognize the reality of the problem. Millions suffer fire and brimstone because we are cruel, greedy, violent, and awful to one another. However you believe it happened I believe sin does seperate us from one another and from God and that justice and truth will out and our only hope is God's mercy for salvation and for true conversion in our lives.


Padre, by fire and brimstone I hope you are alluding to "hell" and not natural phenomenon such as volcanoes, hurricanes, earthquakes, tsunamis, wildfires and tornadoes
December 23rd, 2018 at 7:06:09 AM permalink
FrGamble
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Yes, I am alluding not to the temporary sufferings our broken world experiences, but the infinitely worse fate of eternal separation from God that He came on Christmas to save us from.
“It is with the smallest brushes that the artist paints the most exquisitely beautiful pictures.” (
December 23rd, 2018 at 7:09:27 AM permalink
aceofspades
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Quote: FrGamble
Yes, I am alluding not to the temporary sufferings our broken world experiences, but the infinitely worse fate of eternal separation from God that He came on Christmas to save us from.


Phew - for a second there, I thought I had to worry about something real
December 23rd, 2018 at 7:41:07 AM permalink
Fleastiff
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Quote: FrGamble
Millions suffer fire and brimstone because we are cruel, greedy, violent, and awful to one another.
the solution is to be better at being cruel and violent towards others;
December 23rd, 2018 at 10:28:00 AM permalink
Evenbob
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Quote: aceofspades
Phew - for a second there, I thought I had to worry about something real


Guffaw! Good one, Ace, and you hit
it out of the park. That's the basis of
every god religion, you make up a
bunch of crap you can't prove, then
convince people it's real, and you're
in charge.

The priest thinks he's in charge of
something real, he's totally invested
in the lie. It's humorous now, but
imagine when these people ran
every facet of your life hundreds of
years ago. You could do nothing
without their permission, frightening.

This is why I hate the Church, they
absolutely want those times to return.
When they got away with anything
and everything.
If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose.
December 23rd, 2018 at 10:41:16 AM permalink
aceofspades
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Quote: Evenbob
Guffaw! Good one, Ace, and you hit
it out of the park. That's the basis of
every god religion, you make up a
bunch of crap you can't prove, then
convince people it's real, and you're
in charge.

The priest thinks he's in charge of
something real, he's totally invested
in the lie. It's humorous now, but
imagine when these people ran
every facet of your life hundreds of
years ago. You could do nothing
without their permission, frightening.

This is why I hate the Church, they
absolutely want those times to return.
When they got away with anything
and everything.


All the monotheistic religions love this kind of power
December 23rd, 2018 at 11:02:53 AM permalink
Evenbob
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Quote: aceofspades
All the monotheistic religions love this kind of power


You think the Vatican is sorry about
the pedophile epidemic? Hell no,
they're sorry they're getting caught,
not sorry for it happening. Priests
have been molesting kids for
a thousand years, it goes with the
territory. It's a completely male
dominated power structure, and
when you have that, the men involved
go crazy with the power they have.
If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose.
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