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September 28th, 2018 at 2:15:38 PM permalink
Wizard
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I like the word "Pastafarian"!


I choose my religions based largely on their names.
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September 28th, 2018 at 3:03:21 PM permalink
Evenbob
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Quote: Wizard
I choose my religions based largely on their names.


I limit mine to those which involve no
gods, like zen. I refuse to park my
brain at the door just to make some
nonexistent god happy..
If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose.
September 28th, 2018 at 3:09:59 PM permalink
Pacomartin
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Bible scholars say Jesus actually said about 25% of what is attributed to him..


That's a common statement said about ancients. It was very ordinary to attribute your commentary to a famous person, to increase it's circulation.


The practice continues to the modern era. George Washington's Vision was published 1880. Had it been an advocacy piece it would have vanished by today, but by attributing it George Washington meant that it has lived on for almost 140 years.

Quote: "George Washington's Vision" published 1880

You doubtless heard the story of Washington's going to the thicket to pray in secret for aid and comfort from God, the interposition of whose Divine Providence brought us safely through the darkest days of tribulation. One day, I remember it well, when the chilly winds whistled through the leafless trees, though the sky was cloudless and the sun shown brightly, he remained in his quarters nearly all the afternoon alone. When he came out, I noticed that his face was a shade paler than usual. There seemed to be something on his mind of more than ordinary importance. Returning just after dusk, he dispatched an orderly to the quarters who was presently in attendance. After a preliminary conversation of about an hour, Washington, gazing upon his companion with that strange look of dignity which he alone commanded, related the event that occurred that day.

This afternoon, as I was sitting at this table engaged in preparing a dispatch, something seemed to disturb me. Looking up, I beheld standing opposite me a singularly beautiful female. So astonished was I, for I had given strict orders not to be disturbed, that it was some moments before I found language to inquire the cause of her presence. A second, a third and even a fourth time did I repeat my question, but received no answer from my mysterious visitor except a slight raising of her eyes.

By this time I felt strange sensations spreading through me. I would have risen but the riveted gaze of the being before me rendered volition impossible. I assayed once more to address her, but my tongue had become useless, as though it had become paralyzed.

A new influence, mysterious, potent, irresistible, took possession of me. All I could do was to gaze steadily, vacantly at my unknown visitor. Gradually the surrounding atmosphere seemed as if it had become filled with sensations, and luminous. Everything about me seemed to rarefy, the mysterious visitor herself becoming more airy and yet more distinct to my sight than before. I now began to feel as one dying, or rather to experience the sensations which I have sometimes imagined accompany dissolution. I did not think, I did not reason, I did not move; all were alike impossible. I was only conscious of gazing fixedly, vacantly at my companion.

Presently I heard a voice saying, "Son of the Republic, look and learn," while at the same time my visitor extended her arm eastwardly, I now beheld a heavy white vapor at some distance rising fold upon fold. This gradually dissipated, and I looked upon a stranger scene. Before me lay spread out in one vast plain all the countries of the world — Europe, Asia, Africa and America. I saw rolling and tossing between Europe and America the billows of the Atlantic, and between Asia and America lay the Pacific.

"Son of the Republic," said the same mysterious voice as before, "look and learn." At that moment I beheld a dark, shadowy being, like an angel, standing or rather floating in mid-air, between Europe and America. Dipping water out of the ocean in the hollow of each hand, he sprinkled some upon America with his right hand, while with his left hand he cast some on Europe. Immediately a cloud raised from these countries, and joined in mid-ocean. For a while it remained stationary, and then moved slowly westward, until it enveloped America in its murky folds. Sharp flashes of lightning gleamed through it at intervals, and I heard the smothered groans and cries of the American people.

A second time the angel dipped water from the ocean, and sprinkled it out as before. The dark cloud was then drawn back to the ocean, in whose heaving billows in sank from view. A third time I heard the mysterious voice saying, "Son of the Republic, look and learn," I cast my eyes upon America and beheld villages and towns and cities springing up one after another until the whole land from the Atlantic to the Pacific was dotted with them.

Again, I heard the mysterious voice say, "Son of the Republic, the end of the century cometh, look and learn." At this the dark shadowy angel turned his face southward, and from Africa I saw an ill omened specter approach our land. It flitted slowly over every town and city of the latter. The inhabitants presently set themselves in battle array against each other. As I continued looking I saw a bright angel, on whose brow rested a crown of light, on which was traced the word "Union," bearing the American flag which he placed between the divided nation, and said, "Remember ye are brethren." Instantly, the inhabitants, casting from them their weapons became friends once more, and united around the National Standard.

"And again I heard the mysterious voice saying "Son of the Republic, look and learn." At this the dark, shadowy angel placed a trumpet to his mouth, and blew three distinct blasts; and taking water from the ocean, he sprinkled it upon Europe, Asia and Africa. Then my eyes beheld a fearful scene: From each of these countries arose thick, black clouds that were soon joined into one. Throughout this mass there gleamed a dark red light by which I saw hordes of armed men, who, moving with the cloud, marched by land and sailed by sea to America. Our country was enveloped in this volume of cloud, and I saw these vast armies devastate the whole county and burn the villages, towns and cities that I beheld springing up. As my ears listened to the thundering of the cannon, clashing of sword, and the shouts and cries of millions in mortal combat, I heard again the mysterious voice saying, "Son of the Republic, look and learn" When the voice had ceased, the dark shadowy angel placed his trumpet once more to his mouth, and blew a long and fearful blast. "Instantly a light as of a thousand suns shone down from above me, and pierced and broke into fragments the dark cloud which enveloped America. At the same moment the angel upon whose head still shone the word Union, and who bore our national flag in one hand and a sword in the other, descended from the heavens attended by legions of white spirits. These immediately joined the inhabitants of America, who I perceived were will nigh overcome, but who immediately taking courage again, closed up their broken ranks and renewed the battle.

Again, amid the fearful noise of the conflict, I heard the mysterious voice saying, "Son of the Republic, look and learn." As the voice ceased, the shadowy angel for the last time dipped water from the ocean and sprinkled it upon America. Instantly the dark cloud rolled back, together with the armies it had brought, leaving the inhabitants of the land victorious!

Then once more I beheld the villages, towns and cities springing up where I had seen them before, while the bright angel, planting the azure standard he had brought in the midst of them, cried with a loud voice: "While the stars remain, and the heavens send down dew upon the earth, so long shall the Union last." And taking from his brow the crown on which blazoned the word "Union," he placed it upon the Standard while the people, kneeling down, said, "Amen."

The scene instantly began to fade and dissolve, and I at last saw nothing but the rising, curling vapor I at first beheld. This also disappearing, I found myself once more gazing upon the mysterious visitor, who, in the same voice I had heard before, said, "Son of the Republic, what you have seen is thus interpreted: Three great perils will come upon the Republic. The most fearful is the third, but in this greatest conflict the whole world united shall not prevail against her. Let every child of the Republic learn to live for his God, his land and the Union." With these words the vision vanished, and I started from my seat and felt that I had seen a vision wherein had been shown to me the birth, progress, and destiny of the United States.
September 29th, 2018 at 5:27:44 AM permalink
terapined
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I like the word "Pastafarian"!


Yup
Leftover Salmon performs the Pastafarian anthem
Pasta on the Mountain
Sometimes we live no particular way but our own - Grateful Dead "Eyes of the World"
October 8th, 2018 at 5:11:47 PM permalink
TominNV
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Quote: Wizard
  • We believe climate change is caused by a shortage of pirates, as clearly evidenced by a negative relationship between the number of pirates and global average temperature over time.
  • Nobody has ever been killed in the name of the FSM (can your religion claim that?)


  • By refusing efforts to help repopulate pirates, it would seem the CFSM is contributing to killing people
    October 8th, 2018 at 7:03:19 PM permalink
    Wizard
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    Quote: TominNV
    By refusing efforts to help repopulate pirates, it would seem the CFSM is contributing to killing people


    Hi Tom. Welcome to the forum. We could use some new blood, so please stick around a while.

    To your point, the FSM (what does your C stand for?) gives the world free will to choose the pirate way of life. We believe it is others rewriting history, making pirates out to be villains, that is behind this decline in pirates. In fact, pirates are peaceful travelers.

    Big picture here -- the FSM has given us a good world to live in, with plenty of pasta, and it is not his fault we're ruining it.
    Knowledge is Good -- Emil Faber
    October 8th, 2018 at 8:34:49 PM permalink
    DJTeddyBear
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    I’m not sure how I missed this thread, but as a Reverend in a church that doesn’t believe in god (info), I’ll just repeat what I said when Mike tweeted this news:
    Mazel Tov!




    Quote: DRich
    I do not know if I would be a viable candidate as midgets disturb me. I once watched a porn movie where clowns were screwing midgets. After watching that for 90 minutes I have a low opinion of both.
    Empasis mine. I burst out laughing at that part. It surprises me that nobody mentioned it.
    Ignorance is bliss and knowledge is power. But having only some facts can get you into trouble!
    October 8th, 2018 at 9:09:23 PM permalink
    Pacomartin
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    Quote: Wizard
    However, I encounter few like that. The kind I seem to meet agree with the bumper sticker that says, "Christians aren't perfect, just forgiven," which I interpret to mean, "I'll sin as much as I please, because I'm forgiven".


    I believe that the Catholics call the "sin of presumption" (presuming, that is, that God would give you the grace of repentance). You see it in mafia movies where they bump off someone then go to confession.



    Quote: Wizard
    ... as they cast judgement about everybody else.


    The most faithful people I know are not judgemental.
    October 9th, 2018 at 6:10:53 AM permalink
    Wizard
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    Quote: Pacomartin
    I believe that the Catholics call the "sin of presumption"


    I think they are right about that. One verse you seldom hear quoted in conservative Protestant churches is this one:

    Quote: Philippians 2:12
    Therefore, my dear friends, as you have always obeyed--not only in my presence, but now much more in my absence--continue to work out your salvation with fear and trembling.


    That implies to me that salvation is a process and something that can be lost. Not a popular position among most Protestants I have met.

    Quote: Paco
    The most faithful people I know are not judgemental.


    Me too. However, I know so few like that.
    Knowledge is Good -- Emil Faber
    October 9th, 2018 at 7:40:30 AM permalink
    FrGamble
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    While I readily admit that Evenbob brings out the worst in me I do hope and pray to not be judgmental. After all Jesus said often that if we judge others we will be judged as well and that the measure with which you judge others will be measured out to you. While I desire to proclaim truth in a loving way I will always leave the judging up to God.
    “It is with the smallest brushes that the artist paints the most exquisitely beautiful pictures.” (
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