Clue Game 39

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2 votes (33.33%)
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January 27th, 2018 at 5:45:28 AM permalink
OnceDear
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Quote: OnceDear
Thanks Mike,
Could you please explain to me the points disparity between TC and RXW? Both seem to have played 5 games and both seem to have won one, but there is a 100% difference in their rankings. Somehow TC got a 6 pointer? Was there something different back then, such that maybe you experimented with 7 players?

Looking again at the points system, I guess if each game had a betting pool and each player always contributed 1 dollar, then the total points won would be directly proportional to the dollars won, so I have to concede that his points per game played stat is valid. It just feels squiffy.
January 27th, 2018 at 5:50:42 AM permalink
OnceDear
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Quote: odiousgambit
Forget anyone knocking off Miplet it seems.
miplet has a MASSIVE points lead. I doubt we can assail that lead quickly.
I'm rooting for ODG, because I just hate to see a guy take a whupping from variance and his score does not reflect on any skill disparity.
Let's, hopefully, revert to the mean a little.
January 27th, 2018 at 6:10:15 AM permalink
odiousgambit
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Quote: OnceDear
miplet has a MASSIVE points lead. I doubt we can assail that lead quickly.


I at least want to see 0.665!

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I'm rooting for ODG, because I just hate to see a guy take a whupping from variance and
wait for it ...
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his score does not reflect on any skill disparity.


What a nice thing to say! JOKING, JOKING!

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January 27th, 2018 at 6:11:10 AM permalink
odiousgambit
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actually I got that image from me paying off some mysterious gambling debts
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January 27th, 2018 at 10:41:48 AM permalink
Wizard
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Quote: OnceDear

Thanks Mike,
Could you please explain to me the points disparity between TC and RXW? Both seem to have played 5 games and both seem to have won one, but there is a 100% difference in their rankings. Somehow TC got a 6 pointer? Was there something different back then, such that maybe you experimented with 7 players?


TC beat six* players when he won and RxW beat five*. That gives TC one extra point. So, I stand by the points per game as shown. I admit it gives the wrong impression that TC is twice as good as RxW when they really have almost the same performance. However, it is what it is. I'm open to other methods of ranking everybody. Maybe a simple idea would be you don't get listed in the first table until you complete ten games. Thoughts?

*Corrected
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January 27th, 2018 at 11:06:42 AM permalink
OnceDear
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Quote: Wizard
Updated table of shame.

Game mip OD bbb wiz odg FrG TC rxw pm EB azd
2 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 5
3 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 6 -1





Thanks Mike,
By making the analogy that each game had a $1 wager from each playe, I can see how your representation of points does actually make sense, even if it does mean miplet's lead is unassailable.

But note how TC seems to have beaten 6 other players and RXW beat 5. Was that a pair of typos ( I know it would make no ultimate difference, or did game three really somehow have 7 players?
January 27th, 2018 at 11:16:25 AM permalink
Wizard
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Quote: OnceDear


Thanks Mike,
By making the analogy that each game had a $1 wager from each playe, I can see how your representation of points does actually make sense, even if it does mean miplet's lead is unassailable.


He keeps saying it has been due mostly to luck. After the first round of 11 games, before the long break, I had 8 total points to Miplet's 7. Both of us played in 10 total games. My record sure went south after the break. I'll admit to some losses being partially due to my own errors but I'd like to think I had less than my share of wins with the coin. Who knows, maybe a losing streak will hit Miplet.

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But note how TC seems to have beaten 6 other players and RXW beat 5. Was that a pair of typos ( I know it would make no ultimate difference, or did game three really somehow have 7 players?


You're right. The table was right but my comment was wrong.
Knowledge is Good -- Emil Faber
January 27th, 2018 at 11:22:25 AM permalink
miplet
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Game 3 http://diversitytomorrow.com/thread/1615/0/ with 7 players from 2 years ago. Things were slightly different back then.
"...remind me of clue: Colonel Mustard in the billiard room with the candlestick."- Derek Morgan
January 27th, 2018 at 11:28:09 AM permalink
Wizard
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I, with all due shame, present the the following graph. It shows accumulated points after each game for the active players.

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January 27th, 2018 at 11:39:56 AM permalink
OnceDear
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Can I place a buy order for shares in miplet?
Right! Definite concerted effort to nobble him. :o)
[edit] On second thoughts, miplet is a martingale graph. He'll crash and burn on his own (not)[/edit]
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