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| August 18th, 2017 at 10:02:05 AM permalink | |
| petroglyph Member since: Aug 3, 2014 Threads: 25 Posts: 6227 | What is their origination? The last official act of any government is to loot the treasury. GW |
| August 18th, 2017 at 10:09:49 AM permalink | |
| Nareed Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 346 Posts: 12545 |
Does the accent go in the first or second syllable on the words "defense" in the following sentence: "The Secretary fo Defense played in his college team's defense." Donald Trump is a one-term LOSER |
| August 18th, 2017 at 10:11:21 AM permalink | |
| Pacomartin Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 1068 Posts: 12569 |
The "Port Outbound, Starboard Homeward" legend dates to the mid 1950's. "Jargon" was a word in English from the 1300's, but it originally meant gibberish. Around 1650 the meaning started to refer to specialized language of a profession. Sometimes it referred to the slang of thieves and pickpockets. However, "argot" is a word with a similar meaning to "jargon", but it specifically refers to the slang of thieves and pickpockets. The word "posh" showed up in argot to mean "money" around 1830. Gradually it was adopted by the general population in Britain. ==== The etymology of some words is unknown, although theories always circulate. Slang words and vulgar words can be the most difficult to trace as they often were not used in writing. The simplest and most common words usually come from Old English or Old Norse. However, the bulk of English vocabulary comes from Old French and was adopted after 1066 when the Norman monarchs began to rule. |
| August 18th, 2017 at 10:46:07 AM permalink | |
| petroglyph Member since: Aug 3, 2014 Threads: 25 Posts: 6227 | Is that the origin for the terms Port and Starboard? As they are used to describe the left and right of a boat? The last official act of any government is to loot the treasury. GW |
| August 18th, 2017 at 12:39:53 PM permalink | |
| Pacomartin Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 1068 Posts: 12569 |
No, the legend that "posh" is short for "port out, starboard home" is from the 1950's. Acronyms are relatively new inventions, and almost none existed before the 20th century, so any story that an ancient word is an acronym was made up. The most famous of such stories was "Fornication Under Consent of the King". The word "starboard" comes from Old English "steorbord", literally "steer-board, side on which a vessel was steered". Old English words are more than a thousand years old. The word "port" is also from Old English, but since the 16th century has also been used to mean the "left side of a ship" because it was customary to dock with the left side facing the port (harbor). |
| August 18th, 2017 at 12:59:34 PM permalink | |
| petroglyph Member since: Aug 3, 2014 Threads: 25 Posts: 6227 | Thanks. I have talked with other mariners about the origins, and that is what I had figured for port. Hadn't come up with anything for starboard, I thought maybe something to do with navigation? The last official act of any government is to loot the treasury. GW |
| August 18th, 2017 at 1:08:41 PM permalink | |
| Nareed Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 346 Posts: 12545 |
The story I heard was "Command." Which, come to think of it, might have made the guy a very popular king ;) Donald Trump is a one-term LOSER |
| August 18th, 2017 at 1:20:38 PM permalink | |
| Pacomartin Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 1068 Posts: 12569 |
There are a couple of variations "fornication under consent of king" "for unlawful carnal knowledge" "S.H.I.T" means "Ship High In Transit." "wop" means "without passport," Early acronyms were abbreviated forms: SOB is on record only from 1918. POW for prisoner of war was first attested 1919, but it was not popularized until World War II Acronyms didn't become a common method of word formation in English until World War II. Loran, a word loosely based on "long-range navigation" dates from 1940, was among the earliest. Amgot for Allied Military Government of Occupied Territory dates from 1943 in Sicily. The word acronym itself wasn't coined until 1943. "Dictionary of Acronyms, Initialisms and Abbreviations" was published in 1960 and had 12,000 entries. |
| August 18th, 2017 at 1:25:58 PM permalink | |
| Nareed Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 346 Posts: 12545 |
RADAR: RAdio Detection And Ranging. That one's a noun today. It hasn't become a verb, but it has spawned imitators like LIDAR (which should be spelled lidar, BTW) Donald Trump is a one-term LOSER |
| August 18th, 2017 at 1:31:38 PM permalink | |
| Pacomartin Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 1068 Posts: 12569 |
RADAR spawned SONAR, SOFAR, LOFAR, as well as LIDAR. |

