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The Pope retires!
| February 13th, 2013 at 1:45:42 PM permalink | |
| AZDuffman Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 137 Posts: 21195 |
This is an interesting point. The "most holy" person is not always best for the job. Some priests are great people persons and are good for counseling. Others are great speakers and can pack em in for a Homily. I would like to ask you, Padre, if you have seen many feow priests get dejected when they find out how much "administrative" work there is in the vocation. War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength |
| February 13th, 2013 at 5:48:42 PM permalink | |
| FrGamble Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 67 Posts: 7596 |
Oh man do I ever, including myself! I did not become a priest to run a business with human resource problems, budgeting processes, and marketing issues. I realize it is part of the vocation but especially as numbers decline and more and more is asked of priests the "administrative" stuff can be a real drain. All of this other non-priestly work also gets in the way of time you have to consel and pray with parishioners and prepare for homilies, so everything gets effected. Now at my parish I did recently hire a business manager who can help with the financial and facilities management part of things, but the buck still stops with me and the Catholic mentality and recent tradition is the Pastor has to be in charge of everything. This is a mentality I am trying to break by empowering parishioners to take ownership not only of their faith but their parish, afterall they will be here long after I am reassigned. “It is with the smallest brushes that the artist paints the most exquisitely beautiful pictures.” ( |
| February 13th, 2013 at 7:25:43 PM permalink | |
| Pacomartin Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 1068 Posts: 12569 | My brother preaches in small town churches in the Pennsylvania Slate Belt. Most of the people in the town are very old, and they can't afford a pastor anymore. They resort to "pulpit fill" which is preachers who are paid by the sermon. But with 15-20 people showing up on Sunday, there is no way to pay a salary. Many of the Catholic parishes have closed as well. |
| February 14th, 2013 at 9:43:16 AM permalink | |
| AZDuffman Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 137 Posts: 21195 |
When I was a kid our church used to "borrow" a priest from nearby WV. Three masses between 10 and 11:15 plus others earlier and later meant even a three-priest operation was stretched thin. So an "extra" drove up and did one, usually the 11:15 "guitar mass" in the high school gym. My mother always took us to that one, who did not like because a gym did not "feel like church" to me. I like the business-manager idea. I remember a Protestant Reverend being so happy when his major renovations were done. His wife wanted to cancel Sunday School that week. He said flat out no to that. War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength |
| March 12th, 2013 at 8:54:16 PM permalink | |
| rxwine Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 217 Posts: 22938 | Pick-em-Poper has started. "Trumpsplain (def.) explaining absolute nonsense said by TRUMP. |
| March 13th, 2013 at 9:40:08 AM permalink | |
| AcesAndEights Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 6 Posts: 351 |
Anyone remember this old SNL episode? Find the popes in the pizza contest! "You think I'm joking." -EvenBob |
| March 13th, 2013 at 12:13:09 PM permalink | |
| theodores Member since: Oct 28, 2012 Threads: 2 Posts: 85 | Pope time! Edit: Argentina. Wow! |
| March 13th, 2013 at 12:29:06 PM permalink | |
| Nareed Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 346 Posts: 12545 |
I thought they were supposed to pick a pointiff, not a deity. Donald Trump is a one-term LOSER |
| March 13th, 2013 at 1:22:10 PM permalink | |
| Pacomartin Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 1068 Posts: 12569 | Jorge Bergoglio didn't even have the highest odds among Argentines (let alone Latin Americans) 11/4 Cardinal Peter Turkson Country: Ghana Age: 64 Position: President of the Vatican's Council for Justice and Peace 3/1 Cardinal Angelo Scola Country: Italy Age: 71 Position: Archbishop of Milan 4/1 Cardinal Tarcisio Bertone Country: Italy Age: 78 Position: Secretary of State 6/1 Cardinal Marc Ouellet Country: Canada Age: 64 Position: Prefect of the Congregation for Bishops 12/1 Cardinal Angelo Bagnasco Country: Italy Age: 70 Position: Archbishop of Genoa; President of the Episcopal Conference 12/1 Cardinal Leonardo Sandri Country: Argentina Age: 61 Position: President of the Congregation for the Oriental Churches |
| March 14th, 2013 at 11:33:23 PM permalink | |
| rxwine Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 217 Posts: 22938 |
I have no problem with the new guy. Let's see what happens with this troublesome aspect: Vatican Bank
http://blogs.channel4.com/snowblog/pope-challenge-vatican-bank/20040 Even late as this year the bank is not meeting its obligation with EU over money laundering prevention requirements. I'd be real hesitant to donate my 10% to unaccountable freewheeling entities. The church has been speedy about granting sainthood by comparison of making its bank accountable. Actually, I'd trust my local casinos with my money more than the Catholic Church, and that's just sad. "Trumpsplain (def.) explaining absolute nonsense said by TRUMP. |