America hacks too?
January 8th, 2017 at 12:23:03 PM permalink | |
SOOPOO Member since: Feb 19, 2014 Threads: 22 Posts: 4176 | Much has been made of Russia hacking a certain political party in the USA. Maybe naively, but I though major international powers were always trying to hack each other. Are we not trying to 'hack' into Chinese, Russian, Iranian computers all the time? |
January 8th, 2017 at 12:43:02 PM permalink | |
Evenbob Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 146 Posts: 25011 |
And have we not been influencing elections for decades? Not trying to, but actually doing it. We are the master hackers and influencers, I'm embarrassed for Russia that they failed so miserably in trying to influence our election. If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose. |
January 8th, 2017 at 1:21:39 PM permalink | |
terapined Member since: Aug 6, 2014 Threads: 73 Posts: 11792 |
Both sides have been doing it since the cold war That's one of the reasons Iran hates us The CIA put the Shah in power No doubt Putin helped Trump. Did it put him over the top, probably not Regardless, Putin tried to influence the election in ways we have not seen from the Russians in the past Sometimes we live no particular way but our own - Grateful Dead "Eyes of the World" |
January 8th, 2017 at 1:32:35 PM permalink | |
AZDuffman Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 135 Posts: 18210 |
What ways were there that he did so? Can you give an example? The President is a fink. |
January 8th, 2017 at 1:43:01 PM permalink | |
terapined Member since: Aug 6, 2014 Threads: 73 Posts: 11792 |
I don't need an example I defer to the experts at the CIA and the FBI The Orange guy that pretends to be John Miller should listen to the FBI and CIA also, just saying. Just so weird some republicans cant deal with reality. Its a fantasy to think Trump is perfect and the election was not influenced. Its not a black and white world, its shades of gray Sometimes we live no particular way but our own - Grateful Dead "Eyes of the World" |
January 8th, 2017 at 1:54:10 PM permalink | |
AZDuffman Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 135 Posts: 18210 |
So, in other words, you cannot back up your point?
Do THEY have an example?
Reality is it is an empty charge since not one example can be given! The President is a fink. |
January 8th, 2017 at 2:11:49 PM permalink | |
terapined Member since: Aug 6, 2014 Threads: 73 Posts: 11792 |
This is what it all boils down to I believe the FBI and the CIA You don't believe the FBI and the CIA Fair enough? Now comes the absurd part Why are you looking for proof personally from me when the FBI and CIA cant convince you? In a joint appearance on NBC's "Meet the Press" on Sunday, Republican Senators Lindsey Graham and John McCain said evidence was conclusive that Putin sought to influence the election Sometimes we live no particular way but our own - Grateful Dead "Eyes of the World" |
January 8th, 2017 at 2:21:00 PM permalink | |
AZDuffman Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 135 Posts: 18210 |
Because you keep bringing it up here. How about you just try to make an intelligent guess as to what Putin might have done? And no, I do not just buy what the FBI and CIA are saying. I do not just lap up what my government feeds me. This is the same FBI that sat quiet while people had their business stolen from them by Whitey Bulger and the same CIA that sold dope to our soldiers in Vietnam to run secret wars after all. The President is a fink. |
January 8th, 2017 at 2:21:43 PM permalink | |
Evenbob Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 146 Posts: 25011 |
I totally agree. All we want to see is what they actually did that influenced the election, not what they sought to do. They sought and failed, obviously. So if they sought and failed, why is this a big deal. Do you think in your wildest dreams this is the first time Russia tried to influence one of our elections? You Libs just want any feeble excuse for Hillary losing so you won't have to face the fact she was a horrible candidate and you backed her. If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose. |
January 8th, 2017 at 2:24:53 PM permalink | |
kenarman Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 14 Posts: 4515 | Russia only had one reason to hack during the election and to make sure everyone knew they were doing it. To destabilize and embarrass the US. They have done a masterful job of that as half the population won't stop talking about it and wants to get rid of their currently legally elected president. Like him or hate him all you lefties are just playing into the hands of every country in the world that wants a piece of the USA's lunch. If you want the US to survive it is time to close ranks a little bit or the "USA spring" will be ugly. "but if you make yourselves sheep, the wolves will eat you." Benjamin Franklin |