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March 8th, 2025 at 4:36:58 PM permalink
terapined1
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March 9th, 2025 at 4:45:40 AM permalink
odiousgambit
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oddly enough, I think that would have been money well spent for what we would have learned
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March 9th, 2025 at 3:49:24 PM permalink
fleaswatter
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Quote: terapined1


FAKE NEWS FAKE NEWS FAKE NEWS as is usual with your posts.

Yes, Biden Spent Millions on Transgender Animal Experiments

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Last night, President Donald J. Trump highlighted many of the egregious examples of waste, fraud, and abuse funded by American taxpayers, including $8 million spent by the Biden Administration “for making mice transgender.”

The Fake News losers at CNN immediately tried to fact check it, but President Trump was right (as usual).

FACT: Under the Biden Administration, the National Institutes of Health doled out millions of dollars in taxpayer-funded grants for institutions across the country to perform transgender experiments on mice.

$455,000: “A Mouse Model to Test the Effects of Gender-affirming Hormone Therapy on HIV Vaccine-induced Immune Responses”

$2,500,000: “Reproductive Consequences of Steroid Hormone Administration”
“These mice manifest defects in ovarian architecture and have altered folliculogenesis.”

$299,940: “Gender-Affirming Testosterone Therapy on Breast Cancer Risk and Treatment Outcomes”
“We will compare the incidences and tumor specific survival in female mice (intact) and oophorectomized female mice receiving TT with their respective counterparts that do not receive TT.”

$735,113: “Microbiome mediated effects of gender affirming hormone therapy in mice”

$1,200,000: “Androgen effects on the reproductive neuroendocrine axis”
“Aim 2 utilizes transgenic mice to test whether male-level androgens acting via AR specifically in kisspeptin neurons are necessary and/or sufficient for androgen inhibition of in vivo LH pulse parameters, including pulse frequency, and the estrogen-induced LH surge.”

$3,100,000: “Gonadal hormones as mediators of sex and gender influences in asthma”
“We will study the contributions of estrogens to HDM-induced asthma outcomes using male and female gonadectomized mice treated with estradiol…”

TOTAL: $8,290,053


gosh, this is like shooting fish in a barrel, LOL LOL LOL



P.S. this BS you posted was already debunked on March 5, 3 DAYS BEFORE your post. If you did any research at all you would know better. I guess that is asking too much. LOL LOL
March 9th, 2025 at 4:31:48 PM permalink
odiousgambit
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I wonder what behavior is feminine in a mouse [besides copulation behavior?]. If it was just that, it would be studying homosexuality not gender. Am I making sense?
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April 7th, 2025 at 8:38:56 PM permalink
rxwine
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13000 year old extinct dire wolf brought back to life.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uxo2xIBe_0Y
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April 8th, 2025 at 4:04:11 AM permalink
odiousgambit
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Quote: rxwine
13000 year old extinct dire wolf brought back to life.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uxo2xIBe_0Y
this is a wolf that became extinct at the end of the last glacial period

probably not driven to extinction by humans, in other words. Not sure why we would bring it back

Mad scientists?
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April 8th, 2025 at 4:33:00 AM permalink
rxwine
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Quote: odiousgambit
this is a wolf that became extinct at the end of the last glacial period

probably not driven to extinction by humans, in other words. Not sure why we would bring it back

Mad scientists?


Proof of concept.

Now, trying to repopulate the Earth with extinct animals, that would be a mad scientist.
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April 8th, 2025 at 5:11:14 AM permalink
rxwine
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I question this, but I also see how it could be argued for

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"You can use the phylogenetic [evolutionary relationships] species concept to determine what you're going to call a species, which is what you are implying... We are using the morphological species concept and saying, if they look like this animal, then they are the animal."


For instance, if you could produce anything that looked like one of those giant Jurassic Dinosaur it would be pretty convincing to me that you produced something so much like what once existed even if the genetic make-up was somewhat different.

So, I don't know, a different kind of wolf is not as convincing an accomplishment. But still interesting.
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April 13th, 2025 at 9:27:09 AM permalink
DRich
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Quote: rxwine
I question this, but I also see how it could be argued for

Quote:
"You can use the phylogenetic [evolutionary relationships] species concept to determine what you're going to call a species, which is what you are implying... We are using the morphological species concept and saying, if they look like this animal, then they are the animal."


For instance, if you could produce anything that looked like one of those giant Jurassic Dinosaur it would be pretty convincing to me that you produced something so much like what once existed even if the genetic make-up was somewhat different.

So, I don't know, a different kind of wolf is not as convincing an accomplishment. But still interesting.


There has been lots of discussions about bringing back old extinct species from DNA but a bigger problem exists. Those animals were used to different foods and climates that exist now so they would probably die off very quickly.
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April 14th, 2025 at 12:54:57 AM permalink
odiousgambit
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general co-existence with humans is a problem. Where are you going to put woolly mammoths?

Michael Crichton was trying to tell us .............. we're talking mad scientists here

fascinating though
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