Challenge to FrGamble
August 30th, 2016 at 8:54:48 AM permalink | |
Nareed Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 346 Posts: 12545 |
"So I throw the ball to first base and Naturally gets it." "No! You throw the ball to first base-" "Then who gets it?" "Naturally!" "THAT'S WHAT I SAID!" "You did not." "I throw the ball to first base-" "Then Who gets it!" "HE'D BETTER GET IT!" It's still uproariously funny.
Wouldn't an eternal god be incapable of dying?
And a slowness unmatched by a lazy slug with arthritis on a slow day, seeing as how there is no mention of this outside Judea for years and years after the alleged fact. "Who's pitching?" "Now, listen. Who is not pitching. Who is-" "I'LL BREAK YOUR ARM IF YOU SAY WHO'S ON FIRST!" Donald Trump is a one-term LOSER |
August 30th, 2016 at 12:07:31 PM permalink | |
FrGamble Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 67 Posts: 7596 |
You would think so, yes. What is amazing is that God in the incarnate second person of the most Holy Trinity did really and truly die. “It is with the smallest brushes that the artist paints the most exquisitely beautiful pictures.” ( |
August 30th, 2016 at 12:35:48 PM permalink | |
Nareed Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 346 Posts: 12545 |
What is humdrum and boring is that he was a man who died and has remained dead since then. But there's no profit in that, is there? "The pitcher's name?" "Tomorrow" "You don't want to tell me today?" "I'm telling you, man!" "So tell me." "Tomorrow." "What time?" "What time what?" "What time tomorrow are you going to tell me who's pitching?" "Now, listen. Who is not pitching. Who is on-- "I'LL BREAK YOUR ARM IF YOU SAY WHO'S ON FIRST!" "Now, don't get excited." "I just want to know what's the pitcher's name!" "What's on second." "STAY OUT OF THE INFIELD!" Donald Trump is a one-term LOSER |
August 30th, 2016 at 12:45:08 PM permalink | |
Evenbob Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 146 Posts: 25013 |
Neither are likely. What probably happened was, if the body was put in a tomb, it was later moved and an urban myth popped up that later snowballed into the thing you see in the NT. That is, if there was a body at all. The real stories behind almost anything are usually so boring it would put you to sleep. You can't find a single true event in the Old West, for instance, that hasn't been mythasized all out of proportion to what really happened. And that happened within living memory of people who were there. Yet you want to believe that people who lived in a time of verbal tradition, in a time of extreme superstition, didn't take every aspect of whatever Jesus story there was and blow it so out of proportion to what little really happened, so as to become unrecognizable to anybody who was really there. Of course they did, all societies do it. Now you'll drag out the tired old saw that god would never allow that to happen. And I'll have a good laugh over it. If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose. |
August 30th, 2016 at 1:42:53 PM permalink | |
rxwine Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 189 Posts: 18793 | You know, I believe there was a lot more criticism of the biblical events and stories at the time which was conveniently left out. Just look how much Evenbob or Nareed can manage all on their own. You know people were winking at each other when some of these stories were told, and likely the best comments of the critics were left out. This leads me to believe that the followers weren't just naïve, but actually engaged in the deception of people by not being fair to criticism that was likely quite vocal many times. The real story of Christianity is probably 30 percent missing skepticism of the time. You believe in an invisible god, and dismiss people who say they are trans? Really? |
August 30th, 2016 at 1:53:00 PM permalink | |
FrGamble Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 67 Posts: 7596 |
You think they were winking at each other between the times they were being stoned to death, ostracized from the community, or being fed to lions? That is really taking a made up story a little too far, wouldn't you agree? “It is with the smallest brushes that the artist paints the most exquisitely beautiful pictures.” ( |
August 30th, 2016 at 2:23:36 PM permalink | |
Nareed Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 346 Posts: 12545 |
No one was fed to the lions in Judea, where winking, grinning and elbowing would have taken place. That happened in Rome years and years after the "fact." The one who's really laughing it up is Jehovah. One can picture him among the angels telling them stories "..and then I said 'snip off your thing for me.' And they're doing it!" It's not outside the realm of possibility that the whole thing was made up. But it's far more likely that one or two people imagined they saw Jesus risen from the dead, then others began claiming the same delusion, and then it spread among his followers and perhaps a few others outside their circle. This is not an uncommon pattern when UFOS, ghosts, apparitions, Yetis, etc. are concerned. Or do you think all other myths and legends are made up by committee? "I just want to know what's the guy's name on first base." "What's on second." "I'm not asking you who's on second!" "Who's on first." "I don't know." "He's on third. We're not talking about him." "How did I get on third base?" Donald Trump is a one-term LOSER |
August 30th, 2016 at 2:54:03 PM permalink | |
Evenbob Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 146 Posts: 25013 |
This has happened countless times in history. A rumor spreads as fact very quickly and takes on a life of it's own. Look at the Cardiff Giant story. A rich man in the eastern US, who was an atheist, knew that local Christians believed that giants once roamed the earth, the Bible says so. So he had a fake giant built and pretended to find it on his property while digging a well. This was about 1870. The Christians went bonkers, they paid to see it in droves. It was debunked as a hoax a couple months later, and it made national news. But it didn't matter, the giant was taken on tour and Christians still flocked to see it and paid an admission fee knowing it was a fake. They wanted so much to believe, they pretended the hoax was a hoax. Never under estimate just how daffy true believers really are. If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose. |
August 30th, 2016 at 3:17:58 PM permalink | |
rxwine Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 189 Posts: 18793 |
I bet a critic once saw Jesus stub his toe and hop around in pain, and just smiled later on when he heard his lunatic followers going on about him being the son of god. You believe in an invisible god, and dismiss people who say they are trans? Really? |
August 30th, 2016 at 6:26:03 PM permalink | |
FrGamble Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 67 Posts: 7596 |
I imagine Jesus stubbed His toe. Does that mean He was not the Son of God? “It is with the smallest brushes that the artist paints the most exquisitely beautiful pictures.” ( |