Two Gods or One

Quote: Nareed

You have to understand, it's very hard for imaginary beings to do anything at all, .

I had a chuckle over this because it
hits the nail on the head. It's the
answer to every single question
about god or what god does.
"Well, he is an imaginary being, you
know. It's tough for them to do
anything at all."

lol! My bro in law Baptist minister would
have a cow if I said that to him.

Quote: Nareed

There is but one logical solution: WE DON'T FUCKING KNOW, and it would be irresponsible to assert anything at all as a settled explanation.

Correction: we don't scientifically @$^*(*&$ know. However, logically we can know lots of things about the cause or creator of our universe. We know He is spiritual, non-contingent, all-powerful, intelligent, and eternal.

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Yes, as a matter of fact. DNA assembles itself.

Hey DNA and how it assembles itself if nothing short of an awesome miracle, but it does not create itself, there is a huge difference.

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It was there before there was a universe. Therefore as far as the entirety of existence is concerned, energy has always existed.

Very cogent rhetorical answer. But logically this energy also has a cause.

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While there are many forms of energy, the notion of "pure" energy is ridiculous. All energy is "pure energy." What do you think it might be mixed or contaminated with? Dust?

<roll eyes>

What I meant by pure energy is energy that has not formed into any material thing.

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IF I had wings I wouldn't kill myself jumping off the Stratosphere Tower in Vegas, would I?

We're in agreement then: it is tyranny.

Again only if you think tyranny is instructions for healthy and happy living.

God is real and beyond our imagination.

Quote: FrGamble

God is real and beyond our imagination.

God is not real and is 100% imagination.
Prove otherwise.

Quote: FrGamble

What I meant by pure energy is energy that has not formed into any material thing.

Energy is a material thing.

Quote: Evenbob

God is not real and is 100% imagination.
Prove otherwise.

I think we have already said many times over that prove is the wrong word here. It is like saying prove your wife loves you. I can tell you that personally I know and feel the love of my savior Jesus Christ. I could repeat the philosophical, metaphysical, and logical arguments again but you continue to ignore them and they will never prove to you nor change your heart. Trust me God is very real.

Quote: Evenbob

God is not real and is 100% imagination.
Prove otherwise.

I think we have already said many times over that prove is the wrong word here. It is like saying prove your wife loves you. I can tell you that personally I know and feel the love of my savior Jesus Christ. I could repeat the philosophical, metaphysical, and logical arguments again but you continue to ignore them and they will never prove to you nor change your heart. Trust me God is very real.

You always claim your god is real, but nothing to show.

Raise the dead. I'll show up to watch.

John 14-12 “Truly, truly, I say to you, whoever believes in me will also do the works that I do; and greater works than these will he do, because I am going to the Father"

(noting, all the TV faith healers never pull this one off because it's too hard to fake apparently)

Anyway, angels supposedly get the direct proof any skeptic here would accept. Too bad it is apparently forbidden to us.

If you use the same style of a avoidance conmen use, such as stuff can't be shown, it's impossible to differentiate your claims from conmen.

I don't know why you think we should believe otherwise.