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President Obama foreign travel very different from Bush
| August 18th, 2020 at 2:54:20 AM permalink | |
| Pacomartin Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 1068 Posts: 12569 | Trump really held true to his word about minimal travel. One visit to Canada, and one to Argentina in the Western Hemisphere, and no visits to Australia or Africa at all. Trump's international visits pale in comparison to the other recent one term President, who had to fly his early trips without a modified B747. Trump visits Western Hemisphere One visit to: Argentina, Canada George H. W. Bush visits Western Hemisphere One visit to Argentina, Chile, Colombia, Costa Rica, Martinique, Mexico, Panama, Saint Martin, Uruguay, and Venezuela Two visits to Bermuda, Brazil Four visits to Canada Trump European Visits One visit to: Finland, Vatican City, Poland, Two visits to: Belgium, Germany, Ireland, Italy, Switzerland Three visits to: United Kingdom. Four visits to: France. George H. W. Bush European Visits (all Trump countries except Ireland) One visit to Czechoslovakia, Greece, Hungary, Malta, Russia, Spain, Switzerland Two visits to Belgium, Finland, Italy, Netherlands, Poland, and Vatican City Three visits to the United Kingdom and Germany (including one to West Germany) Four visits to France Trump visits Middle East One visit to: Iraq, Israel, Saudi Arabia, and the disputed West Bank. George H. W. Bush visits Middle East One visit to Egypt, Somalia, Turkey Two visits to Saudi Arabia Trump visits trans-Oceanic outside of Europe One visit to: Afghanistan, China, India, North Korea, Philippines, and Singapore Two visits to: South Korea, and Vietnam. Three visits to: Japan George H. W. Bush visits trans-Oceanic outside of Europe One visit to Australia, China, Singapore, Soviet Union Two visits to Japan and South Korea May 20–22, 2017 Saudi Arabia Riyadh May 22–23, 2017 Israel Jerusalem May 23, 2017 State of Palestine (West Bank) Bethlehem . November 5–7, 2017 Japan Kawagoe, Tokyo November 7–8, 2017 South Korea Osan, Seoul November 8–10, 2017 China Beijing November 10–12, 2017 Vietnam Đà Nẵng November 12–14, 2017 Philippines Manila, Pasay . Cruise speed: 500 kn (580 mph, 930 km/h) / M0.84 at 35,000 ft (10,668 m) June 8–9, 2018 Canada La Malbaie June 10–12, 2018 Singapore Central Area, Sentosa Island . November 29 – December 1, 2018 Argentina Buenos Aires . December 26, 2018 Iraq Al Asad Air Base . February 26–28, 2019 Vietnam Hanoi . May 25–28, 2019 Japan Tokyo . June 27–29, 2019 Japan Osaka June 29–30, 2019 South Korea Seoul, Korean Demilitarized Zone June 30, 2019 North Korea Joint Security Area . November 28, 2019 Afghanistan Bagram Airfield . February 24–25, 2020 India Ahmedabad, Agra, New Delhi |
| August 18th, 2020 at 5:40:00 AM permalink | |
| Tanko Member since: Aug 15, 2019 Threads: 0 Posts: 1978 |
Lot of good all that traveling did Obama and the Bushmen. They left a lot of death and destruction in their contrails. Afghanistan, Iraq, Arab Spring, Syria, Ukraine, Libya, Benghazi, ISIS, bad trade deals, and Obama’s case, a ridiculous environmental deal that had us subsidizing every other country’s environmental program at the expense of US businesses and jobs. Good thing Biden can't fly. |
| August 18th, 2020 at 6:09:57 AM permalink | |
| Pacomartin Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 1068 Posts: 12569 |
Clinton was an itinerant flyer (especially after Monica). 
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| August 18th, 2020 at 6:17:05 AM permalink | |
| ams288 Member since: Apr 21, 2016 Threads: 29 Posts: 12499 |
He thinks Biden has Alzheimer’s or something which prevents him from being able to go in an airplane. Just another laughable conspiracy theory from the right. The party of QAnon knows no bottom... “A straight man will not go for kids.” - AZDuffman |
| August 18th, 2020 at 4:57:56 PM permalink | |
| Pacomartin Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 1068 Posts: 12569 | In some ways Jimmy Carter traveled to more countries than Donald Trump, and that was long before the B747.  Carter  Trump |
| August 18th, 2020 at 8:37:12 PM permalink | |
| kenarman Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 14 Posts: 4491 |
People with Alzheimer's are often scared to get into showers too. Look it up. "but if you make yourselves sheep, the wolves will eat you." Benjamin Franklin |
| August 19th, 2020 at 5:20:27 AM permalink | |
| Pacomartin Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 1068 Posts: 12569 | Before Trump 12 Presidents had made 39 visits to Canada while in office including FDRs 3 vacation trips 7 Presidents addressed a joint session of the Canadian parliament 14 Presidents had made 34 visits to Mexico while in office Trump has gone to Canada only once for a summit meeting, and has never been to Mexico. He has been to Latin America only once, to Argentina for a summit meeting. |
| August 21st, 2020 at 11:13:59 AM permalink | |
| Evenbob Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 146 Posts: 25011 |
Trump has been an extensive world traveler for 40 years, he's not interested in galavanting all over the world just because the gov't is paying for it. Like Carter, Clinton and Obama did. If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose. |
| August 22nd, 2020 at 4:20:42 AM permalink | |
| Pacomartin Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 1068 Posts: 12569 | Taft and Mexican president Porfirio Díaz exchanged visits across Mexico – United States border, at El Paso, Texas, and Ciudad Juárez, Mexico, in October 1909. Calvin Coolidge traveled to Havana, Cuba in January 1928, where he addressed the Sixth International Conference of American States. Herbert Hoover undertook an extensive ten-week tour of Central and South America during the time he was president-elect. Taft and Mexican president Porfirio Díaz (First visit of a sitting American President to a foreign country other than Panama Canal Zone)
I think it is deeper than that. President George W. Bush went to Mexico six times as POTUS. He spent most of his life in Texas. A trip to MX would have been routine. Trump, however, has attended more official State Visits in less than 4 years, than Obama did in 8 years. Trump State Visits November 7–8, 2017 South Korea November 8–10, 2017 China November 10–12, 2017 Vietnam May 25–28, 2019 Japan June 3–5, 2019 United Kingdom Obama State Visits July 24–26, 2015 Kenya June 29, 2016 Canada November 15–16, 2016 Greece |
| August 22nd, 2020 at 5:24:59 AM permalink | |
| AZDuffman Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 135 Posts: 18202 |
Trump likes being a host more than being a guest. He is in the hotel and resort business. He wants to show himself and his places as being said host. Some people are like that. I have stayed with and visited people who you would think they are running a hotel they set everything up so nice for their guests. That is why Trump wants to host things at his places. He is the host. The President is a fink. |