What is money anyways?

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February 13th, 2018 at 11:14:46 AM permalink
AZDuffman
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Quote: Evenbob
The value of money in various periods has
always fascinated me. They have calculators
that will tell you what a dollar was worth in
different years. For instance, $100 in today's
USD was worth $1500 in 1925, supposedly.

But this is flawed. In 1925 you could buy a
fine new house from Sears for $600. In today's
money that's $9000. But you can't buy much
of a house now for $9K, let alone a quality new
home like Sears sold. Same with cars.

If you made $30K a year in 1925, you could live
like a king. You could even have a couple of
live-in servants. Today that's $180K a year, which
many families make as a combined income. They
might have a nice home and new cars, but they'll
be in debt, and having servants isn't even close to
possible.



$9,000/$600 = 15Xs

$180,000/$30,000 = 6Xs


While I agree with the Sears house, I'm confused at the numbers.
The President is a fink.
February 13th, 2018 at 11:23:09 AM permalink
Evenbob
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Quote: AZDuffman
$9,000/$600 = 15Xs

$180,000/$30,000 = 6Xs
While I agree with the Sears house, I'm confused at the numbers.


$600 = $9000 in today's money. $100
equals $1500 today, times 6 is $9K.
If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose.
February 13th, 2018 at 11:52:01 AM permalink
petroglyph
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Quote: Evenbob
My point it, there is really no way to calculate a dollars
worth in a past year accurately. In 1925 you could have
dinner for two in a 3 star restaurant for $5. Today that
same dinner could easily cost $1K.
Just weigh it against a currency that has been used for thousands of years. http://www.maguireref.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/GoldPricesChart.pdf

Wiki:"..the dollar consisting of twenty-five and eight-tenths grains (1.67 g) of gold nine-tenths fine, as established by section thirty-five hundred and eleven of the Revised Statutes of the United States, shall be the standard unit of value, and all forms of money issued or coined by the United States shall be maintained at a parity of value with this standard..."
The last official act of any government is to loot the treasury. GW
February 19th, 2018 at 6:24:10 AM permalink
Pacomartin
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Seems to be a trend here

https://cryptovest.com/news/sweden-looking-to-release-national-digital-currency-called-e-krona/
Sweden Looking to Release National Digital Currency Called e-Krona

https://www.lifeinnorway.net/digital-currency/
Central Bank Investigates Digital Currency (Norway)

http://www.scmp.com/business/companies/article/2118468/chinas-central-bank-studying-its-own-digital-currency-even-it
China’s central bank is developing its own digital currency, even as it bans bitcoin and private cryptos

https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/business/.premium-israel-s-answer-to-bitcoin-a-digital-shekel-that-could-replace-cash-1.5629500
Israel considers a digital shekel

https://cointelegraph.com/news/breaking-russia-issuing-cryptoruble
Russia Issuing ‘CryptoRuble’

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/12/30/bank-england-plots-bitcoin-style-digital-currency/
Bank of England plots its own bitcoin-style digital currency

https://www.cnbc.com/2015/02/06/ecuador-becomes-the-first-country-to-roll-out-its-own-digital-durrency.html
Ecuador becomes the first country to roll out its own digital cash

https://www.cnbc.com/2016/08/24/four-top-banks-join-forces-on-new-digital-currency.html
Four top banks join forces on new digital currency :BNY Mellon, Deutsche Bank and Santander, plus U.K. brokerage ICAP, will join UBS to work on the Utility Settlement Coin (USC)

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-01-28/japanese-don-t-need-digital-currency-as-they-love-cash-boj-says
Japan’s Central Bank Sees No Need to Mint a Digital Currency

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-ecb-bitcoin-estonia/ecbs-draghi-rejects-estonias-virtual-currency-idea-idUSKCN1BI2BI
ECB's Draghi rejects Estonia's virtual currency idea

The Swedish Krona is so close to 10:1 exchange rate, that if it were fixed at 10 to 1, then the e-krona could stand in as a digital euro
1 EUR =9.90419SEK
November 28th, 2018 at 6:49:22 AM permalink
Fleastiff
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/. reports that cell phone app 'Telegram' is being used in Iran to trade currency and also to spread massise amounts of rumors and 'fake news'
so as to drive currency values down.
November 28th, 2018 at 10:19:58 AM permalink
JimRockford
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Quote: Fleastiff
/. reports that cell phone app 'Telegram' is being used in Iran to trade currency and also to spread massise amounts of rumors and 'fake news'
so as to drive currency values down.

I am shocked that slashdot is still around. The last time I thought about slashdot I would have used Netscape to read it.
The mind hungers for that on which it feeds.
November 28th, 2018 at 12:59:39 PM permalink
Fleastiff
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Quote: JimRockford
I am shocked that slashdot is still around. The last time I thought about slashdot I would have used Netscape to read it.

LOL. I guess I live life in the slow lane. What do you use as a replacement?
November 28th, 2018 at 2:30:55 PM permalink
JimRockford
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Quote: Fleastiff
LOL. I guess I live life in the slow lane. What do you use as a replacement?

I don't mean it as a criticism. I have not yet found a good politically neutral news source. I'll give slashdot a look. It was just kind of a blast from the past because I used it as a source for news on Unix and open source. It's been a long time since I was in that world.
The mind hungers for that on which it feeds.
November 28th, 2018 at 4:34:22 PM permalink
Fleastiff
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Quote: JimRockford
I don't mean it as a criticism. I have not yet found a good politically neutral news source. I'll give slashdot a look. It was just kind of a blast from the past because I used it as a source for news on Unix and open source. It's been a long time since I was in that world.

Oh yes, now its coming back to my alcohol sodden brain cells you used to be a real computer geek.
It was JimMorrison who used to be on this forum who was the guy who often entertained my
heroin/speed/meth/anything addicted poker playing friend in Vegas. I don't think he knew anything at all about computers.
He did know enough to have Nesarian's number on speed dial and in Vegas that is sometimes all you need.
May 4th, 2019 at 8:20:34 AM permalink
Pacomartin
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Quote: Pacomartin
South Korea has declared that all coins will no longer be legal tender as of 2020. I think a natural consequence will be that the use of the smallest banknote will also diminish radically. Almost all cash transactions will consist of two denominations only.

South Korea has finally begun their program to eliminate the coin as of 19 April (a little later than previously planned). They expect to demonetize coins by 2022.

Major stores have begun giving al change on phone apps or on this T-Money card which can be used for public transportation.


A card maximum value it can hold is about $430. It will be interesting to see how many money laundering operations involve a briefcase full of T-Money cards.

As I said earlier the two smallest banknotes worth $0.86 and $4.30 will almost certainly start to vanish as well as most people will conduct small transactions electronically.

The two larger banknotes worth $8.60 and $43.00 are currently 15% and 80% of the value of cash in circulation in Korea. They will remain in wide circulation for a longer period of time (especially the largest value) as they represent a different level of transaction, or they function as a store of value.
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