refusing to accept cash
May 27th, 2018 at 12:47:10 PM permalink | |
Fleastiff Member since: Oct 27, 2012 Threads: 62 Posts: 7831 | Australia just suffered a nine hour banking outage as transactions would not go through and no one was able to withdraw cash. |
May 27th, 2018 at 4:24:22 PM permalink | |
Pacomartin Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 1068 Posts: 12569 | Sweden just republished a slightly updated WWII brochure. Note the highlighted bullet item.
Banks in Sweden have no cash that is not in their ATMS They have very few ATMS (2,220 for a population of 10 millilon), which about 22.2 ATMS per 100,000 people. Those are the kind of numbers you see in Paraguay, Vietnam or Laos. All the ATMs are run by one company. The primary banknote denomination in circulation is worth about 50 Euros and there are less than 7 per capita in circulation. The rest of the cash is basically ~100 Euros per capita in various denominations (i.e. mostly small bills to make change).
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June 12th, 2018 at 5:03:38 AM permalink | |
Fleastiff Member since: Oct 27, 2012 Threads: 62 Posts: 7831 | Bloomberg reports Swedish legislators declare a sixteen mile limit to availability of cash services even though most of Swedish economy is cash free. |
June 12th, 2018 at 5:54:56 AM permalink | |
Pacomartin Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 1068 Posts: 12569 |
The Riksbank make a survey in 2010 and then almost 40 per cent said that they had made their most recent payment in cash. In September of 2016, the corresponding figure was only 15 per cent. What some consumers, smaller companies and local clubs often see as a problem, is not so much getting hold of cash, but being able to deposit it in a bank account. So the sixteen mile rule may not address the real problem, which is that a business owner may have to drive much further than that to deposit his cash in a bank account since most branches do not accept cash over the counter, and most ATMs in Sweden do not accept cash deposits. Businesses are simply finding it more cost effective to simply not accept cash. If they lose a sale they don't consider it important. A friend of mine is over there now, and he has not made a single cash payment, nor even seen local currency in over a week. |
June 12th, 2018 at 8:36:30 AM permalink | |
Fleastiff Member since: Oct 27, 2012 Threads: 62 Posts: 7831 | An obvious solution suggests itself. |
June 12th, 2018 at 11:07:01 AM permalink | |
Pacomartin Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 1068 Posts: 12569 |
They are circulating a very small number of banknotes per capita in Sweden. The USA has more $20 banknotes in circulation than Sweden has in all six denominations. ATMS dispense only 500kr banknotes. In Stockholm it is probably much easier to find an ATM that accepts deposits than in the small cities. About 23% of the population lives in the metropolitan area around Stockholm. Banknotes per capita in circulation in Sweden 5 : 20 kr ~€2 -- usually a coin in most countries in Europe, Canada, or Australia 2 : 50 kr ~€5 3 : 100 kr ~€10 3 : 200 kr` ~€20 7 : 500 kr ~€50 -- most common banknote in Euro zone for ATM use 1/3 : 1000 kr ~€100 Most of the Western world has a coin for the smallest denomination. If Sweden replaces this banknote with a coin, they will only have 15 banknotes per capita in circulation. The largest denomination only circulates in token quantities, and most people never see the note anymore. Other than replacing the 20kr banknote with a coin, it is nearly impossible to see how Sweden can have a functioning cash system if it tries to reduce their banknotes anymore. Perhaps they will introduce a 20kr, 50kr, and 100kr coin and simply do away with banknotes entirely. Banknotes per capita in circulation 37 : $1 George Washington 4 : $2 Thomas Jefferson 9 : $5 Abraham Lincoln 6 : $10 Alexander Hamilton 28 : $20 Andrew Jackson 5 : $50 Ulysses S. Grant 38 : $100 Benjamin Franklin There are actually a lot of $2 banknotes squirreled away in drawers and safes in people's homes. |
August 24th, 2018 at 10:22:07 AM permalink | |
JimRockford Member since: Sep 18, 2015 Threads: 2 Posts: 971 | A growing number of the food trucks around here don't take cash. I don't like it but I get it, faster service, safer for employees. However when they can't provide a printed receipt, I'm never going back. I should be able to buy a bowl of noodles without giving up my phone number or email address. The mind hungers for that on which it feeds. |
August 24th, 2018 at 11:01:34 AM permalink | |
Fleastiff Member since: Oct 27, 2012 Threads: 62 Posts: 7831 | I think many people have things rigged so that their telephone banking is done with a special email address and a bank account that they limit to rather small sums. That bowl of noodles won't wind up costing you any more than you intended to pay and often the physical receipt is easily lost or blown away and will yield far more information than you want to reveal. |
August 24th, 2018 at 11:47:36 AM permalink | |
AZDuffman Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 135 Posts: 18204 |
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August 24th, 2018 at 11:55:12 AM permalink | |
JimRockford Member since: Sep 18, 2015 Threads: 2 Posts: 971 | A printed credit card receipt has nothing more personal than my name. CC numbers are not included anymore (maybe the last 4 digits). I don't want to manage another email account. I just want a bowl of noodles and a printed receipt. If I could pay with cash I wouldn't care about a receipt. I'm not saying they're breaking the law or should be boycotted by anyone but me. The mind hungers for that on which it feeds. |