Why is Cruz running?

I also don't think it matters whether McCain was born inside or outside the Canal Zone. It could be easily questioned whether the Canal Zone was U.S. soil but I'm personally fine with the interpretation that if you meet US citizenship rules at birth then you're a "naturally born citizen."

Ted Cruz would be near the bottom of my list for president but I won't hold being born in Canada against him. I think we need to be concerned with real issues.

I don't like Cruz at all, he's a big mouthed
ambitious politician. He's a junior senator
who's been running for the WH since he
was elected. He's also unattractive and
has no chin.

Quote: Wizard

I also don't think it matters whether McCain was born inside or outside the Canal Zone. It could be easily questioned whether the Canal Zone was U.S. soil but I'm personally fine with the interpretation that if you meet US citizenship rules at birth then you're a "naturally born citizen."

Pretty much this.... it's a rule that's debated so often for so little net effect.

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Ted Cruz would be near the bottom of my list for president but I won't hold being born in Canada against him. I think we need to be concerned with real issues.

Shame he left when he was 4... he didn't get any of the good stuff from up here...

Cruz, isn't really running. He is a diversion for who is really running. He is there to take all the heat away from the real player. He is a distraction. He is to much of a zealot to be the real candidate.

I heard him swearing allegiance to Israel today. I also heard that rhetoric, is getting old on the world stage, the world wants a two state solution.

The real candidate will show about 6 months out. I think it will be Walker.

Similarly the dems can't really be planning to run HIllary, can they? That would be political suicide. Way too many skeleton's in the closet [and she is one of them] snarc.

Walker versus Warren, they love their symbolism. And, it has such a nice ring to it.

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The more I think about it, the more I think the somersaults Cruz is performing on this matter will be trouble if he ever gets very far down the line. Indeed, one only needs to look at what happened to Obama, who I personally do not doubt was born in Hawaii.

however, wouldn't you know it!

After finally showing his birth certificate, there is something odd ... and of course it is picked up on by the Birthers [which I am not amongst]. For race the father is described as "African". What? Even now that would be dissatisfactory, assuming they ask about race at all. And back in 1961 it was absolutely invariable that "Negro" would have been the indication.

I can only imagine that for some reason the family insisted on something besides "Negro" and got their way.

btw I haven't looked to see if this was discussed in a thread already.

It is possible since he was from Africa that they put that, like today a father from say Niger would not put "African American."

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It is possible since he was from Africa that they put that, like today a father from say Niger would not put "African American."

I'm sure you agree that Africa is a continent, not a race.

I'm thinking the family was offended that there was something about race at all, and got their way. Perhaps you had to live back in 1961 to realize how unlikely it would be that a doctor would not use "negro" on his own.

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I'm sure you agree that Africa is a continent, not a race.

I'm thinking the family was offended that there was something about race at all, and got their way. Perhaps you had to live back in 1961 to realize how unlikely it would be that a doctor would not use "negro" on his own.

I know it is, but just throwing out an idea. Nobody used "African American" pre-1980s. I didn't live back then, but I was thinking the opposite. "Negro" was the term in the 1960s. Best I can tell, "negro" was not "offensive" until the late 1970s, though after 1970 it was an "old" term.

There also might have been some kind of state law that mandated out-of-country parents had to list race such and such a way.

FWIW even today the government makes people "guess" the person's race in some cases. For example, if you do a face-to-face mortgage application and refuse to give your race the person taking the application has to guess. That is Federal Law. Post-2000! So I will just say a lot of things might have come into play.

Pretty packed event at Liberty U for Ted Cruz.
Was everybody there because they supported Ted?
Of course not.
In the spirit of Marshawn Lynch, many were there simply because they did not want to get fined.
Yup, if you decided to skip the event because you support, say Rand Paul, the University will fine you.

Is Liberty U really for Liberty lol ?
http://dailycaller.com/2015/03/23/liberty-university-would-fine-students-who-skipped-ted-cruz-speech/

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Pretty packed event at Liberty U for Ted Cruz.
Was everybody there because they supported Ted?
Of course not.
In the spirit of Marshawn Lynch, many were there simply because they did not want to get fined.
Yup, if you decided to skip the event because you support, say Rand Paul, the University will fine you.

Is Liberty U really for Liberty lol ?
http://dailycaller.com/2015/03/23/liberty-university-would-fine-students-who-skipped-ted-cruz-speech/

No different than schools that required students to purchase "Dreams From My Father." At least no charge required for Cruz.

Quote: AZDuffman

No different than schools that required students to purchase "Dreams From My Father." At least no charge required for Cruz.

Hmm, was this a mandatory class?
Probabbly not.
Gigantic difference
Attendance was mandatory at this political rally or you get fined.
Rand Paul supporters were not happy about this.